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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:08 PM
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Electability, It Comes From Both Directions
We've focused on electability from the direction of centrist voters for some time. We have installed a number of conservative Democrats--Clinton by many's description was more right-wing that Nixon--and Republicans over the last three decades. What has happened.

They have instituted without resistance, the exporting of our jobs, thus the American lifestyle, without resistance.

They have allowed the minimum wage continue to drop, and the lower 60% of us actually make less in real earnings.

They have allowed the top 10% to not only continue to do well, but increased their already huge percentage of the pot, through dividend tax cuts, and inheritance tax cuts.

All of this while the Homeless wander the streets, unemployment has never been full, getting rid of unemployment insurance, and incredible inflation in all areas where people can advance themselves, or desperately need services, like school, hospitals, drugs, insurance, and housing.

Do you really think that considering Democratic electibility only comes from the center-side? Certainly, we are now seeing many assert themselves, who want Dean, or voted Green last time, who want to stop the pull to the right. I know a certain segment of Democrats aren't concerned with this 40 or 50 million people who are in these dire straits. But we are here, and if you want us to vote, we need a candidate who cares about our issues.

I haven't eleminated all Democrats, and I'm a Dean supporter, who really kind of likes Kucinich's policies. I have made my adjustment to the center a bit, in choosing Dean to support, in fact, I am hosting a meetup for him. I know I'd seriously consider voting for someone else should Lieberman get the nod, and I'm not so sure I'd want to vote for someone like Clark, whos record is ambiguous at best, and might just be a Republican too, regardless of what he says. Of the others, Kerry isn't much of a worry, as his numbers have been steadily dropping, and I would probably be able to vote for Edwards. I worry about Gephardt, he speaks a good game, but he's been there so long, and has never tried to do any of this stuff he's talking.

So yea, we have a right to pull a little in our direction. In closing, I found Lieberman's appearance on Meet The Press shameful, saying it's either Dean or me. He apparently hasn't checked the polls lately. A miracle could happen, but I suspect it is over with for him. But if it isn't Dean, or Edwards, perhaps Gephardt, I'd have to think about going Green again. Some of you just don't understand, the issues that affect some of us are being ignored by both parties, and we want to put a stop to it, it's pretty simple.
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:12 PM
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1. No kidding.
"A miracle could happen, but I suspect it is over with for him. But if it isn't Dean, or Edwards, perhaps Gephardt, I'd have to think about going Green again. Some of you just don't understand, the issues that affect some of us are being ignored by both parties, and we want to put a stop to it, it's pretty simple."

I focus largely on education reform, something the Greens don't even give a damn about.
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MontecitoDem Donating Member (542 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:22 PM
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2. If you are thinking of voting green
you should reconsider Wesley Clark.  He got good reviews with
the League of Conservation Voters for a reason.  Read his
answers to the survey they produced.  

Also, do you think Charles Rangel and Andrew YOung would
endorse him if he was a Republican?  Do you think you know
something about Clark that they don't?

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:57 AM
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3. Hi MontecitoDem!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 07:00 AM
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4. When is the last time a veritable liberal was elected president?
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 07:00 AM by _Jumper_
Should we lose 40+ states and re-elect Bush just to vent our anger?
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 12:01 PM
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5. Jumper
Lets see, he's been called too liberal, he's been called too conservative (to try to throw off we liberal voters), and he's been called unelectable.

The truth is, he's just not the choice of the wealthy benefactors who own the media, therefore, they are engaged in finding the "too's" in numbers, trying to steer you away from a guy who can be a great president.
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