is anyone else starting to think Lieberman will emerge as the "anti-Dean"?

[pruner]

it's hard to dispute the fact that he offers the clearest alternative to Dean (read: closest approximation to Bush).

[caledesi]

1. Lieberman is finished. (he just doesn't know it yet)...poor man. eom

[pruner]

3. I would've agreed until I saw the new Newsweek poll…

Clark & Lieberman are now tied at 12% and Clark was down 3% since last month while Lieberman was up 4%.

:shrug:

[SahaleArm]

10. Still within MOE - Maybe Arizona or Oklahoma?

Still he's living off the past and when voting time comes he will disappear.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

12. I wouldn't expect that to last, personally

Just my opinion. Lieberman has been consistently down and Clark has been consistently up, with the exception of this week, so I don't think that's anything but the usual demographic glitch that happens from time to time. I think the differences are within the margin of error too.

[pruner]

13. Clark hasn't been moving up nationally…

he's been stagnant.

this month represents the first drop since he entered the race as far as I'm aware.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

16. Hmmm...

Most of the polls I've seen he's been doing very well. I don't follow the polls all that much though, I must admit.

[pruner]

19. I'm a poll junkie

his national numbers had been stable until this week.

he's not doing very well in many primary polls either.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

22. I can't follow those things

The up/down horse race nature of polls has always seemed a little inaccurate to me. There are still a few weeks until the primaries (an eternity in news-cycle-land) and that's plenty of time for almost anything to happen. My feeling about Lieberman is based mainly just on the fact that when I have checked in over the last few months he's been down on the list pretty consistently. But like I said, anything can happen.

[SahaleArm]

42. Let's see 12 (15), 12 (17), 17 (17) - All within MOE

I guess you're right then?

[JohnLocke]

2. No.

I believe Edwards will come out as a great southern alternative.

[citizen snips]

4. Seems like most of the candidates is anti-dean.

He is the front runner.

[pruner]

8. well yes…

they're all anti-Dean, but there can only be one "anti-Dean".

:)

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

5. No

I think Kerry or Clark will be the "Anti-Dean," since they bring military experience to the table, which Dean does not have and which is the issue that he's probably the most vulnerable on.

[joefree1]

6. Nah, Bush is the "anti-Christ"..., er, I mean "anti-Dean"

It's all starting to look like Clark or Dean.


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[bluestateguy]

7. Clark will be the anti-Dean

Lieberman is being propped up by name recognition; Kerry is falling like a brick; Gebhart will not be a serious candidate after he loses Iowa; Edwards is not polling well outside of the South, and even there he is slipping. That leaves Clark.

[Armstead]

9. I'd rather see Gephardt as the anti-Dean

At least Gep is a real Democrat.

[littlejoe]

11. Lieberman can only be thought of

as the anti-democrat.

[mistertrickster]

14. Ahhahahah . . . no

EOM

[markus]

15. Clark and Edwards are the Anti-Deans

Edwards is really the strongest candidate of the Third Way Clinton clones. I think I'd like him a whole lot more if he was not the window dressing Democrat on the Patriot Act.

I don't know how much he contributed to it, but he was at least allowed to read it before it was introduced and still endorsed it.

This was a big misread on his part of the role of the "liberal elites" in the party nomination process.

[VT70]

17. Nope

I think Gephardt will. Lieberman is poison.

[pruner]

20. Gephardt is done after Iowa

:nuke:

[VT70]

21. Gephardt will win Iowa

Dean will win NH, and then Gephardt will come to SC and beat Dean here. Everyone else except Dean and Gephardt will drop out after February 3rd, Gephardt will win the mountain state and great plains primaries, and the midwest and the southern primaries, and Dean will win the northeast and some of the western states. Gephardt will win some of the western states too, and cinch the nomination.

[pruner]

23. LOL

best of luck to you.

[Zomby Woof]

35. Gephardt is a non-entity after Iowa

He hardly exists on the radar outside of the midwest. He will retire very soon.

[littlejoe]

40. I would be surprised if

Gephart could even find his way out of an Iowa cornfield.

[Malva Zebrina]

18. there has been a lot of talk about supporting the Dem candidate

no matter who it is--anyone would be better than Bush, runs the conventional wisdom. But I gotta say--if it, by some improbable chance, happens to be Lieberman, I would have to hold my nose for a week in order to vote for him. I may drop over from lack of oxygen--and would consider it a supreme act of sacrifice--a tragic martyrdom -- one which I should be rewarded for in some after life, if one exists, which I do not believe exists. LOL I would hate being bribed by this kind of a vote. I would hate it forever.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

25. I have already planned

that if Lieberman somehow gets the nomination, I will vote for him. The trick? I'll vote drunk.

[Jerseycoa]

27. Oh, what a good idea (eom)

:dem:

[Malva Zebrina]

33. Hee--LOL

that is a good idea, except that here in this tiny little Maine community, where the voting is done in a 200 year old town hall,complete with the original oak voting boxes where you deposit your paper ballot which has been marked in pencil with "x"'s and original benches used still for town meetings, monthly and where everyone knows everyone else,and has known them for tens and tens,if not hundreds, of years and the voting is really a quite jolly, social event where neighbors get to joke with each other and have a lot of fun, I do not think that if I showed up drunk at eight o'clock in the morning, that it would be viewed as a postive event for me. LOL

On the other hand, perhaps I should,if this does come to pass, bring along a full bottle of Jack Daniel's and pass it out to the rest of the people there who would be in the same boat.!!! They may all need it it!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

37. Just don't be so drunk that you don't accidentally vote for Bush

What a nightmare THAT would be. It'd require years of therapy.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

24. The only way Lieberman can emerge as "the anti-Dean"..

..is if more Republicans than Democrats vote in the Democratic primaries.

[patricia92243]

26. Na! this is just somethingfor the news to talk about for a couple of days

[billbuckhead]

28. I wish Lieberman would quit and throw his support to Dean.

They deserve each other.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

31. That will never happen

I think Lieberman hates Dean even more than you do.

[Jerseycoa]

29. False

Lieberman has the recognition thanks to Al Gore's selection of him to his ticket and no other reason. People are just not paying that much attention, except when some huge story hits the press, until after the holidays.

:dem:

[tameszu]

30. Too many people hate Lieberman and Clark will raise more money

than him 4Q.

And Clark's grassroots kick the crap out of Lieb's.

[Zomby Woof]

32. finally! you admit it!

Dean (read: closest approximation to Bush).

Grammatically, that is what you said: Dean is the closest approximation to Bush. It happens to be accurate.

I am the Anti-Dean, by the way.

[littlejoe]

41. You'd better stock up on your anti-depressants, Zomby

[RDANGELO]

34. I hope not

You want to continue losing manufacturing jobs? Elect Joe. His policies on trade are no different than shrubs. I think most of his strength comes from just name recongnition. In Iowa and New Hampshire,where the voter are paying attention,he is below the middle of the pack.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

36. Nope. Dean is NOT a Liberal - he is quite conservative

In addition, Lieberman doesn't have a chance.

[Myra]

38. How could he be the anti-Dean when they both have conservative records?

Well, you asked!
And it's true.

[AlinPA]

39. Lieberman is hurting Democrats now.

The guy is starting to sound like a ditto head.