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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:59 PM
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Dean should make ads like the Osama attack ad
Except have the ads portray Dean as some sort of foreign policy badass who wants to bring Osama to justice. What the hell.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:04 PM
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1. Too bad Michael Jackson has a stigma against him now.
Because if he didn't, I would make the Dean ads look like some of the more bad-ass moments in Jacko's videos, like:

- smashing up the windows of a car
- pointing at a streetlight and having it explode
- crushing a cue ball with one hand
- turning into a werewolf and yelling "GO AWAY!"

Of course you would have to make the symbolism stand for like, this is what he'd do to Osama's car, etcetera, and make it obvious, but yeah, he would cruise right into the White House.
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:10 PM
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3. You have to be cheesy
Edited on Sat Dec-13-03 07:11 PM by WhosNext
Alot of dumbasses will buy it.

Have you seen the Osama hit piece? It's cheesy as hell. www.deanforamerica.com

You have to respond with equally goofy stuff. Be like "many in the white house have IGNORED Osama, but Howard Dean is leading the FIGHT to get OSAMA." "Many in the White House are CRITICIZING Howard Dean for wanting to CAPTURE Osama." "Is this the type of Washington rhetoric we need? Howard Dean wants to FIGHT the terrorists. Those in Washington want to IGNORE them."
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:19 PM
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7. My ad would end with an image of Dean looking badass
A black and white photo of Dean looking rugged with the announcer saying "Howard Dean, fighting the fight to get bin laden"
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:26 PM
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9. I forgot one.
"You ain't bad, you ain't bad, you ain't nothin'!"
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:09 PM
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2. Dean should respond to the Osama attack ad
By reassuring people who have concerns about Dean's positions regarding national security that Dean knows what he is doing.

Has he done that yet?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:13 PM
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4. I agree.
All in all, I think this is good that it came up sooner rather than later. We can see how he'll deal with it. It kind of had to be done, even though I think it's bad that they did it over the airwaves rather than in person with him. I wish he'd have pre-empted it too.
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:21 PM
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8. lmao@your sig line.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:28 PM
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11. Actually it goes along with this thread!
Edited on Sat Dec-13-03 07:37 PM by LoZoccolo
I changed it when that ad came out about the "pessimism and angry protest" and people were saying they were trying to make him look crazy...I'm like naw he looks cool at the end I'm gonna put that as my sig line.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:15 PM
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5. His ad should say this:
Edited on Sat Dec-13-03 07:17 PM by DinoBoy
"You might have seen an ad recently claiming that Vermont Governor Howard Dean wouldn't be able to compete with George Bush on issues concerning terrorism."

/image of Usama ad/

"This is incorrect. Unlike George Bush, and some of his democratic rivals..."

/image of Bush, Kerry, Gephardt, Lieberman, and Edwards/

"...Governor Dean opposed the Iraqi war which diverted precious resources from the war on terrorism, and made the world a more dangerous place..."

/images of terrorist attacks on Americans in Iraq/

"...and has come up empty handed in the search for weapons of mass destruction."

/images of news paper headlines to that effect/

"As President, Governor Dean would focus efforts on finding terrorist criminals, and bringing them to justice, rather than stretching our military thin prosecuting a war based on false information."

/image of Dean looking presidential/

EDIT: spelling
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:16 PM
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6. Send it to 'em.
You have the power!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:27 PM
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10. Whoops! The problem with that is...IT'S A LIE!
Dean was for the Iraq War first and admitted recently that he agreed with the Biden-Lugar Amendment. He also said this in a Salon interview:

"...Saddam must be disarmed, but with a multilateral force under the auspices of the United Nations. If the U.N. in the end chooses not to enforce its own resolutions, then the U.S. should give Saddam 30 to 60 days to disarm, and if he doesn't, unilateral action is a regrettable, but unavoidable, choice."

("On the campaign trail with the un-Bush" by Jake Tapper)

This is all probably over your head. Never mind. Go ahead. Make another ad where Dean lies about his original ideas on the War.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 10:20 PM
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12. it's a lie? what? your post?
Thanks for the insults and half truths.... try again.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 10:27 PM
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13. Last Sunday, a wingnut columnist in my local paper
Edited on Sat Dec-13-03 10:28 PM by deutsey
said that Osama bin Laden will be happy to have Dean as president. I thought this guy was just some sort of looney crank until I heard about the recent attacks on Clearchannel and the ad by an anonymous Dem group.

I'm beginning to think there's some coordinated effort to get this meme circulating in the mainstream media, and oddly enough, it's not just the GOP doing it. Hmm.

Anyway, here was my response to the wingnut (I don't know if it'll get published, but I circulated to my Dean Meetup List):

Frankly, I'm confused by Alex Ray's assertion that "Osama would be pleased with someone like Howard Dean leading our government".

Considering the Bush family's close business relations with the Bin Laden family over the years, one would naturally assume that Osama would be very pleased with George Bush leading (sic) our government.

The Bin Ladens are one of the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia. Not only did Ronald Reagan's CIA help to train Osama in guerrilla warfare, but the Bin Laden family has been major investors in the American defense contractor called the Carlyle Group, for which George Bush's father is a highly paid consultant.

This may account for why Bush blocked FBI efforts to investigate the Bin Ladens’ possible connections to terrorist activities. John O’Neill, a Deputy Director of the FBI, resigned in protest as a result of George Bush's odd directive to desist from investigating two of Osama’s brothers living in Falls Church, Virginia. According to O’Neill, the “main obstacles to investigating Islamic terrorism were U.S. oil interests and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it.”

And, lest we forget, it was George Bush who allowed private Saudi Arabian jets to fly 24 members of the Bin Laden family out of the U.S. in the days immediately after the 9/11 attacks when all other air travel was suspended.

So, it seems to me that Osama would be quite happy should Bush remain in the White House. After all, their families go way back.

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