VA and PA Polls Come Out in Favor of Dean

[slinkerwink]

Virginia has a February 10 primary, thus will play a role in selecting our nominee. The big-name polling firm Mason-Dixon (one of the most respected) has now polled the race. MoE +/- 6%. No trend lines.

Other/Undecided 28
Dean 21
Lieberman 13
Clark 11
Gephardt 8
Kerry 7
Sharpton 6
Edwards 5
Kucinich 1
Braun 0

Poll was conducted Dec. 3-5, before the Gore endorsement. It actually proves encouraging to Dean, Lieberman and Clark, none of which have spent significant time in the state.

It's a late primary, so it means little to the overall outcome of the race. And the MoE of 7.1% is ridiculous. But for what little it's worth, here are the latest numbers out of Pennsylvania. No trend lines.

Not Sure 31
Dean 19
Lieberman 12
Clark 10
Kerry 10
Gephardt 6
Other 4
Sharpton 3
Braun 3
Kucinich 2
Edwards 0

The poll was conducted prior to the Gore endorsement.

http://www.dailykos.com

[LeftCoast]

1. Why do they even DO a poll with that large a MOE?

Sheesh. :)

Good to see Dean ahead. Very sad about all the vitriole and scorched earth tactics by others in the running for the nomination. :(

[slinkerwink]

3. I know, we'll see what happens when Dean responds back to that ad

[LeftCoast]

8. Any clue when Dean's response is coming?

I know he's commented, but I'm wondering if he will have an ad...

[slinkerwink]

2. The margin of errors are ridiculous though but it doesn't deny the fact

that Dean is outside the margin of error.

[demothinker]

6. Actually, no...

A 6% margin of error would allow a 12% swing (one person -6 and another +6), and he's only 8 ahead of Lieberman and 10 ahead of Clark. Plus, those polls are basically meaningless with those huge undecided numbers.

[zulchzulu]

4. Wrong. Undecided and Not Sure are kickin' some ass

Plus the MOE is 7.1%. If you know anything about polls, an MOE of 5 or higher is used toilet paper.

[joefree1]

5. "Prior to the Gore endorsement"

I toast to that Monday at the Hollywood House of Blues.

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Who else is going from DU: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=106&topic_id=4536
(I'll post pics on Tuesday)

"If you have no enemies, it is a sign fortune has forgot you."
- Thomas Fuller (1608 - 1661)

Edit: "Used toilet paper?" Anti-Dean angst?

[bleedingheart]

7. Personally I think PA should move its primary up

we hold 22 electoral votes...why shouldn't we have a greater say in who is going to be the candidate of the party? Same goes for the rest of the more populated states who have late primaries.

[deminflorida]

9. Those are good polls and I see them this way after Joe drops

out...

Virginia....

Dean 21 + (Lieberman +3) + Undecided 14 (Splits between Clark) = 38
Clark 11 + (Lieberman + 10) + Undecided 14 (Splits between Dean) = 35

Dean 38 / Clark 35

Pennsylvania....

Dean 19 + (Lieberman + 2) + Not Sure 16 (Splits between Clark) = 37
Clark 10 + (Lieberman + 10) + Not Sure 15 (Splits between Dean) = 35

Just a guess...

Viginia....

Dean 38
Clark 35

Penn.

Dean 37
Clark 35

Nothing Scientific...just a guess and that's if Lieberman drops out after N.H.

It also does not take in consideration the Gore endorsement or the Ads currently running against Dean.

[Auntie Bush]

10. Dean, Clark and Lieb. all went down one.

The undecideds went up so looks like people and really giving the candidates a good look. I didn't notice Dean getting a bump from Gore. Maybe it was to early to show up.

[Fahrenheit911]

11. yeuch.. Lieberman..

I don't want no republicans acting like democrats to be the nominee.. definite way ta lose

boy, what are some people thinking with their candiadate choice

[mobuto]

12. 21% with +/- 6%?

Ok, not only is the MoE huge (which makes the poll highly suspect), but the lead is tiny.

Only one Democrat in five backs Howard Dean. That's not a resounding endorsement. The Dems are still looking for a candidate to rally around. Despite all the press he's gotten, Dean can't be the one. Not if he can only get the votes of one Democrat in five.