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BillyD Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 02:32 PM
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Iraqis vent anger at informer
Edited on Sun Jul-27-03 10:13 PM by Skinner
http://theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/28/1059244500636.html

Iraqis vent anger at informer
July 28 2003

Angry residents of this northern city today warned Nawaf al-Zaidan, the tribal chief who owned the mansion where Uday and Qusay Saddam Hussein died in a blistering gunbattle, that revenge is coming to him.

"He's a traitor to his country and religion," said a shopkeeper across from Zaidan's gutted home, destroyed in the long but one-sided battle between Saddam Hussein's sons and US forces last Tuesday.

And whether they loved Saddam's regime or not, many here view Zaidan, the suspected informer who tipped off the Americans, as a traitor for the sake of a $US30 million ($A45.2 million) price tag on Uday and Qusay's heads.

"Nawaf and his son and the money he received will all end up in a grave," predicted Zaidan's old neighbourhood shopkeeper.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 02:58 PM
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1. wow. Another hornet's nest opened up by the rum dum boys.
So they could parade them all across America and say see what we did.

We killed them so they couldn't talk and reveal any embarassing history we have with them.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 03:47 PM
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2. BillyD
Per DU copyright rules
please post only 4
paragraphs from the
news source.

Thank you.


NYer99
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BillyD Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 04:05 PM
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4. Re 4 paras
Understood on the 4 paras - sorry
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 03:53 PM
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3. I knew it!!
Rummy and crew have no idea how Iraqis feel. They are working on the assumption that Iraqi culture and western culture are one in the same. But they fail to start from the premise that they invaded - YES INVADED - this country, and therefore any and all damage done is seen as being against Iraq.

**shaking my head**
Hard to believe those in charge just don't get it!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 06:17 PM
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10. Once again, the admin shows everyone...
how inept they really are.

While I will shed no tears over the deaths of these two, I feel that every effort to capture them alive was never really contemplated. If these two had been captured rather than obliterated, things would be different in that area.

But bush & Co, with their infinite capacity for turning a 'good' situation into a catastrophe, never wanted these two to leave the building alive. Not only were some potential sources of information, but these dolts that think they are in charge, have created even more animosity.

For what it's worth, I hope the 'informer' and his family receive safe passage to wherever they are going, I just hope it is not the US.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 06:17 PM
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11. Once again, the admin shows everyone...
Edited on Sun Jul-27-03 06:19 PM by rasputin1952
Sorry...dup post.


how inept they really are.

While I will shed no tears over the deaths of these two, I feel that every effort to capture them alive was never really contemplated. If these two had been captured rather than obliterated, things would be different in that area.

But bush & Co, with their infinite capacity for turning a 'good' situation into a catastrophe, never wanted these two to leave the building alive. Not only were some potential sources of information, but these dolts that think they are in charge, have created even more animosity.

For what it's worth, I hope the 'informer' and his family receive safe passage to wherever they are going, I just hope it is not the US.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 04:06 PM
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5. OK.
So why did Nawaf al-Zaidan do it then?

Does he really want to live in fear his entire life and have all of his extended family murdered?
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 05:19 PM
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7. Depends on what his next best option was.
He might have been given protection by the US and moved to Arizona or something. You never know.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 05:51 PM
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8. Funky N'waf !
"Born in Babylonia, moved to Arizona,
(He's got his own Savings & Loan-a)
Sting N'waf"

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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 04:44 PM
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6. More.
What is weird is, at least so far, only AFP and the Mirror are pursuing this storyline.

From The Mirror:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13220256_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-THE-INFORMER-WHO-LED-US-TO-SADDAM-S-SONS-name_page.html

THE INFORMER WHO LED US TO SADDAM'S SONS

Jul 26 2003

Betrayal for $30 million

From Grant Hodgson in Mosul

THE man who sent Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's sons to their deaths sits with the tyrant he was later to betray. The picture of Nawaf Al-Zaidan was taken in Mosul in 1989 when Nawaf and his brother Salah visited Saddam in his caravan. Nawaf, 47, who owns the villa in Mosul where Uday and Qusay Hussein were killed by US troops, is believed to have tipped off the Americans. He will now get a $30 million reward from the US government - $15 million for each son. A

Nawaf and Salah are now thought to have an even bigger price on their heads - put up by furious Saddam. One of their cousins said: "If there is any way Saddam can kill them, he will. The Americans offered $30million for Saddam's sons but Saddam will offer $50million."

The cousin, who refused to be named, said Uday and Qusay had been hiding in Mosul for two months before they were killed. He added that Nawaf had caused terrible problems for the family by betraying Uday and Qusay. He said: "We are not supporters of Saddam. If I knew where he was I would tell the Americans myself, but what Nawaf did by informing on his guests was wrong. All the family now have to live in fear for what he has done. If Saddam or his supporters can kill us in revenge they will. This is a terrible position for us to be in and it is all Nawaf's fault."

The cousin added: "Nawaf is a man motivated by money. When Uday and Qusay were staying with him he took their money, saying he would hide it for them, but he pocketed it so he could buy furniture from Turkey.



And since when do the NY POST (Murdoch) and the UK Mirror share reporters?

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/1678.htm

GOODWILL GIS HIT IN AMBUSH

By GRANT HODGSON and NILES LATHEM

June 24, 2003 -- BAGHDAD - Three U.S. soldiers on a goodwill mission to buy a wheelchair for a 10-year old Iraqi boy were injured in a grenade attack in Baghdad yesterday.

A group of six soldiers from the Army's 409th Civil Affairs Battalion were ambushed outside a store in central Baghdad by a group of coldblooded attackers who appeared to have staked out the site.

When the civil-affairs officers got out of two Humvee troop carriers, the thugs' Kia minibus, its windows blacked out, pulled alongside. An attacker threw a grenade at the GIs from the window, and the van sped off into Baghdad's chaos, witnesses said.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 05:55 PM
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9. And the US thinks that some other Iraqi will NOW turn in Saddam?
Sure they will.... :eyes: Iraqis are lining up with tips, as we speak...
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