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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:21 PM
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Did Bush Give Stand-down Orders Sept 11 ?
Edited on Sun Jul-27-03 01:29 PM by protect freedom impe
IF Bush administration gave these "stand down orders" on the
morning og Sept 11, THEN it was a treasonous act.

DID CHENEY GIVE THAT ORDER ?

http://www.rense.com/general17/werestanddown.htm

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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:26 PM
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1. One of them did
Give stand down orders. There is no other plausible explanation for the events of that day and the collapse of SOP.

None.

And yes, it is TREASON.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:32 PM
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2. Bush is unable to give an order
that hasn't been processed by someone else before. In addition, on that day, he apparently lost it. The little he ordinarily has. This other might have been anyb ody in the resident's support team.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:36 PM
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5. Since Chimpy was sitting in the classroom
Like a dumb*hit, on that day while Americans were being murdered and Cheney was wisked away, I assume that Cheney was the person who gave the actual order for the military to Stand Down.

Doesn't absolve the Chimp. He shows signs of prior knowlege and he could be impeached solely for dereliction of duty on that day.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:34 PM
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3. this is the thing I never quite understood about 9/11...
...why USAF procedure was apparantly disobeyed concerning scrambling fighters and proceeding to intercept mode. Only the highest authority in the land could issue the order. Now we know for sure, SOMEONE in the executive branch gave the "stand down" order. Just as this was CLEARLY a treasonous act, so is any action that gets in the way of completely investigating this matter. If Congress does not proceed with further investigation, then the ENTIRE Congress should be thrown out and charged with treason for aiding and abetting a traitor.

Let's ask ourselves, why has the $hrubya administration done EVERYTHING possible to contaminate and contain the 9/11 investigation(s)?

Why are members of the armed services NOT coming forth with information concerning 9/11?

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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:34 PM
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4. Someone in the admin did
They're the only ones with the authority to give that order.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:37 PM
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6. Is there anything in the report about military?
I've looked through some of it and couldn't find anything about military response, FAA communications, etc. I still want to know how all these planes managed to be hijacked with no military response. Does anybody know if this is in the report at all??
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Aries Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 02:11 PM
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7. What happened with NORAD and the FAA on 9/11?
This is a subject the "Independent" 9/11 Commission has dealt with, but it remains to be seen how effectively, as noted by Tom Flocco:

9-11 Commission Testimony Too Hot To Be Under Oath

http://www.tomflocco.com/9-11_commission_Testimony_too_hot.htm

'...Then Vice-Chairman Lee Hamilton entered the fray, asking Arnold when President Bush gave the order to shoot down airliners assumed to be hijacked, and why that exact time of the shoot-down order was not entered into the official NORAD 9/11 timeline, presented and discussed in front of the Commission just minutes prior to Arnold's questioning -- one that NORAD admitted to having reconstructed well after the fact, using some estimated times.

Arnold advised that at one time during the morning of September 11, some “21 airliners were called ‘hijacked.’ ” But Vice-Chairman Hamilton pressed the General for an answer to his original question --one which also has critical time-line implications.

Arnold answered Hamilton, offering more incredible, but un-sworn testimony: “I am sure that information is available,” Congressman Hamilton, adding “I appreciate your question.” Everyone in the hearing room seemed stunned at his answer.

At that point, Kean and Hamilton were becoming perturbed with Arnold, asking that he “provide for the record, the chain of command for the shoot-down order on September 11.”

At that moment, reporters, victim family members, and others began quietly looking at one another -- with soft, almost inaudible murmurs bouncing around the hearing room....'

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