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Mioshi Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:35 PM
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Why didn't Gore call Joe Liberman?
Liberman said earlier that he wouldn't run for President if Al Gore was going to. He was willing to defer to his friend. He gets rewarded by being blind-sided by Al Gore,(Liberman saw it on TV) that Gore was endorsing Howard Dean. Man, what's up with that?
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:37 PM
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1. This isn't LBN.
Gore has free-will and can endorse who he wants.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:39 PM
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5. Hey, the poster is brand new here....he's obviously distraught
about the perceived slight..
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:50 PM
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14. Maybe he got lost...
;)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:37 PM
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2. Pisser, isn't it?
nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:37 PM
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3. The news was leaked before he could call anyone
but this isn't LBN.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:37 PM
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4. Gore owes nothing to Lieberman
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 06:38 PM by trumad
Without Gore, Loserman would be a no-name Dem doing photo ops with Bush and appearing on Hannity's radio show!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:42 PM
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10. And also, remember how
Holy Joe stabbed Gore in the back during the 2000 election fiasco? As far as I'm concerned, Gore owes NOTHING to that repuke-lite!


Ding, Ding, Ding! BTW, I just realized, this is my 5,000th post!!! WHOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bounce:
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:39 PM
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6. Who cares!
Liberman was a liability in the last election.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:40 PM
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7. didn't have to. n/t
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:40 PM
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8. Welcome to DU--Re-post this in GD--lots of people will have something
to say--and it'll pretty much be negative about Holy Joe, thank God!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:41 PM
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9. This is the new Repub spin, see. Gore betrays his buddies, he lies
yadayadayada.

Not saying you are repub, Mioshi, just that I've heard this a lot from Repubs today.

BTW, Lieberman heard when a reporter called him, not from watching tv. The reporter got the story from a leak, and called Lieberman before it broke nationally, and before Gore did.
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Kira Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:45 PM
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11. Please, Lieberman
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 06:46 PM by Kira
waited because he knew that if Gore was in the race there was no way he could win and he would look foolish is he entered. He couldn't disagree with him on issues because it would look ridiculous. He has been a martyr from the moment he announced his candidacy, saying that he waited until he decided not to run, to be fair and supportive. That is total bs.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:09 PM
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17. I remember Gore saying at the time
that Lieberman need not wait for him before deciding to run. That was Lieberman's decision.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:47 PM
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12. Gore says he tried to call Joe several times yesterday
but could not get through
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Mioshi Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:14 PM
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18. Yeah Right
Gore couldn't confirm notification to his friend Liberman before he went public with his endorsement of Dean? Sure. I belive you. He just couldn't get through because the phone was busy. I'm sure that's what it was.

Liberman supporter
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:24 PM
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20. Sweetie, it's rude to correct spelling but...
How am I going to believe you support a man whose name you haven't bothered to get correctly?

It's just that little nagging doubt, you see?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:38 PM
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25. Hehehehe....good one.
This must be tonight's talking point.
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Mioshi Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:47 PM
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28. Thanks for correcting my spelling
I couldn't help but notice that Theshushibandit #6 and Thinkingwoman #19 also misspelled Joe Lieberman's name in the heat of battle. Because I dropped an "e" in his name, please disregard anything I might have to say about this good Democratic senator. I certainly would.

Point made!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:32 PM
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22. yeah, like Lieberman
let Gore know before he stabbed him in the back during the 2000 fiasco by coming right out and telling the press that Shrub was really the winner and that it was time for Gore to concede? Like he let Gore know when he cozied up to Shrub on the faith-based initiative bullshit and the Iraq invasion and other repuke bullshit? Like he had the class not to whine like a third-grader who lost an election for class secretary this morning? Like he was actually friends with Gore, after dissing him and his beliefs many times these past few years, whining about how "progressive" he was? Like he showed class cutting down Dean and most other candidates, and believing he has the divine right to have the nomination conferred upon him? I don't fucking think so, get real, baby!
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gonefishing Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:00 PM
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36. Thats not the point.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 09:03 PM by gonefishing
The point is that Gore is always stepping on his dick (politically). The smart move would been to call Joe first. I like Gore a lot. However, he is not street smart. His first debate with dubya should have been a slam dunk. Gore looked like an idiot (politically) during that debate. Not once did he call Nader during the campaign (it might have only taken one call). Why didn't he use Clinton in AK and TN? Only an idiot could have lost that last election with the momentum that Clinton had going (politically).

Anyway (politically speaking) ....
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:47 PM
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13. Gore doesn't have to call a Repuke before deciding
whom he is going to endorse!
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:51 PM
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15. Ouch!
;-)
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 06:53 PM
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16. ROFLMAO!
That's for sure, and that pretty much says it all right there!
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:22 PM
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19. who cares?
Leiberman is a whiner with no class, as proven by his response to it all today.

Gore didn't owe the brat a call, but he says he tried and I see no reason not to believe him.

I also see no reason why he should have felt obligated to do so.
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Mioshi Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:30 PM
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21. I don't know................
maybe friendship and common courtesy might have had a place in all of this. But, I could be wrong.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:35 PM
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23. Poor little martyred...
loser, Joe.

:nopity:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:36 PM
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24. THEY ARE NOT FRIENDS!!!!!!!
They don't have a "friendship!" And as for common courtesy, where was Lieberman's when he stabbed Gore in the back in 2000, telling the press that Gore should concede because Bush was the winner, before they'd even attempted a full recount? Where was Lieberman's when he dissed Gore for being too "progressive", not enough this, too much that? Lieberman has done nothing but cut down and criticize the other candidates, even in front-page articles in national papers like USA Today, and now he has the gall to go whining to the press, complaining that he's not being given the divine worship he feels he's due?
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:38 PM
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26. thank you historian!
Good point!

I reiterate (and apologize for not being able to help myself ;-) ) Lieberman is a classless whiner.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:40 PM
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27. Go with your gut on this one Mioshi.
You're wrong.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:51 PM
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29. at the end of the day...
... Lieberman had about a 2% chance of getting the nomination. Now he has 0.01% Good riddance to someone who simply does not represent where the party needs and wants to go.

If I had been Lieberman, rather than whining I'd have sucked it up. He has simply made himself look worse. If that is possible :)
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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:58 PM
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30. Is this the best they can do to discredit Gore?
Maybe the GOP should start the whole "invented the internet" thing again, or maybe because Gore got that berard then shaved it, or the brown suit. Damn, won't these jeolous people ever get over the fact that Clinton and Gore team did a better job running America; the well known fact that Clinton/Gore did better than any previous administration bothers them to no end so they resort to constant personal attacks.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:09 PM
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31. He planned to call Joe, but it got leaked before he could...
At least that's what this article implies:

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-gore-the-decision,0,7823474,print.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

(snip)
They instantly made two decisions: Break the news in New York's Harlem neighborhood, where both were scheduled to be Tuesday, and keep it a secret until the last possible minute. Gore apparently wanted to give Dean's rivals a call late Monday night, officials said, but those plans were scuttled when the endorsement leaked.
(snip)
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:14 PM
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32. Mioshi - much as I like
to support the promotion of civility in political and discussion- board life - your critics have it right and you come across as disingenuous at best. Nothing was owed here. Lieberman betrayed Gore (and us) in December 2000. Enough said. I don't know why Al Gore did what he did but as far as I am concerned - he was elected in 2000 and deserves to be able to do what he thinks fit... my guess is that this all has to do with rather bigger issues than just the right candidate for 2004. Al Gore is taking a stand here. And I respect him for it. So - worry about his table manners and etiquette? Al Gore? Are you kidding ?
Go Al, go!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:17 PM
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33. the same thing happened when jimmy page and robert plant didn't call
john paul jones when they did their duet zep tour. john was seriously miffed. they made up later, i heard.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:23 PM
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34. Lieberman has also dissed
Gore's "Power to the People" populist 2000 campaign theme. I doubt he conferred with Gore before he did that.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:25 PM
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35. Who cares?
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