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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:26 PM
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Poll question: Drug War question: Would you try hard drugs if they were legal?
I don't think the number of druggies would go up appreciably if they were legal. Would legality make a difference to you?

By hard drugs I mean crack, heroin, angel dust, etc., not MJ.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:30 PM
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1. Not now, but...
I tried coke, LSD, shrooms, and peyote as a teenager, so I guess I would have done those, anyway. Luckily, I was too busy with other things to get addicted.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:31 PM
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2. I did drugs ...
I am NOT a recovering addict, just don't do 'em anymore, and I would probbly do some again if they were legal, to test the gov't standards, of course.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:31 PM
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3. you are missing an option...
I do drugs (soft drugs), I wouldn't do hard drugs if they were legalized (but I support legalization).
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:31 PM
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19. Well said
I wouldn't have any desire to try crack, cociane, heroin, etc.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:48 PM
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21. exactly...
however, I currently use mj.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:33 PM
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4. If history is any indication, it would briefly spike and then tail off
In the case of alcohol prohibition, this is what the data indicates.

However, it would probably be far less with hard drugs, since they already have such a bad stigma, the scale of heroin 'culture' is miniscule compared to alcohol 'culture' and the dangers of opiate addiction, meth addiction, etc.... are widely understood.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:35 PM
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5. i picked other cuz
i don't care what all gest legalized, i'll stick with weed thank ya very much!!!!!!!!!!!

Lu Cifer, pass the Dutchie to da left hand side!
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:41 PM
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6. I've already done various kinds of hard drugs
(alcohol, prescribed opiates) and found I generally prefer my mind intact. So I might ingest some experimentally, but I doubt I'd bother as any sort of regular practice.

Dennis Kucinich plans to end the drugs war, so he would be a good choice for anyone who'd like to experiment without doing 20 hard time.
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spychoactive Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:47 PM
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8. the only difference...
between a handful of oxycontin and heroin is the prescription pad...

it boils down to class, i fear...maybe not, my judgement is apparently cloudy according to the powers that be...friggin' potheads

;)

i agree with the "spike" theory though!

the more i study things the better Dennis Kucinich looks to me!

legalize everything, eliminate the narco-facist regime!

one love
spike

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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:45 PM
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7. Would not do hard drugs legal or not; not my cup of tea
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:28 PM
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18. I second that.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 07:30 PM by RebelOne
I did soft drugs for a while (marijuana, coke, speed), but not any longer. Probably would not do them again even if they were legal. At my age, I value my health too much at this stage of my life.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:40 PM
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28. Drugs should be legal . . .
I've done every drug there is and their legality made no play one way or the other on that fact. They're so easy to get that legalizing them wouldn't affect the numbers of people doing them in the slightest. The problem with drugs is not their criminality but their addictive nature. Doing a particular drug is not a crime. It's only when a crime is committed in the process of attaining that drug that the situation becomes criminal. If drugs were legal, prices would come down and the people who can't afford the high prices of street drugs wouldn't have to resort to illegal means to attain them. And in the situation where a habit does get out of hand, the problem could be addressed without fear of public scrutiny, condemnation and the threat of legal ramifications.

The war on drugs is just one more corporate scam that removes money from the pockets of those who can least afford it. It's time to remove prohibition from drugs and let life take its own course. I have faith in the overall nature of people and their desire to do the very best that they can in their individual situations.

Partying was fun back in the day when life was a little more carefree, but I don't have time to do drugs anymore. I have too much work to do and too many things of interest that I have yet to do. My focus in life has changed and legalizing drugs wouldn't entice me to change my priorities in the least. But that decision should be mine to make.

TYY
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:50 PM
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9. if the last couple of days is an indication of the Dem campaign...
I'd like a steady supply of dilaudid
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spychoactive Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 04:57 PM
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10. yeah what he said^
methinks a train wreck may be ensuing...

i have to go take a shower now because i almost caught myself typing "ditto"

maybe drugs ARE bad

lol

:)

one love
spike
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:34 PM
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11. No never as I am sure I would just love them
:smoke: :smoke: :smoke:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:35 PM
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12. I would not try those drugs if they were legal, no.
But other, more recreational drugs, sure. Of course, most of those I have already tried. Starting with *ahem* alcohol and ciggies. :D
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:49 PM
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13. If drugs were legal
I'd experiment with the shamanic use of hallucinogens in a safe atmosphere.

I would also try opium and heroin for the experience.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:01 PM
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14. No interest in hard drugs
and only slightly more interest in marijuana.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:07 PM
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15. Only if they made opium available
It has been thirty-five years but it was sweeettt.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:18 PM
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16. No.
I like to drink, and I have smoked marijuana in the past. But I'd never use anything that you snort or inject, or that is both physically addictive to everyone and could kill me with relative ease.

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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:23 PM
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17. Hard drugs suck
Even without the draconian laws they mess people up. No thanks.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:34 PM
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20. Already tried them...
never intended to make a career out of it, and would not do it again if they were legal. My curiosity about drugs has been satisfied.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:53 PM
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22. Hard, addictive drugs are boring.
Why bother?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:10 PM
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23. Other:
I'd work my way up to the hard stuff through the gateway drugs - caffine, nicotine, alcohol...
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:16 PM
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24. having grown up in a rich/white suburb of Chicago... drugs were available
... but I made my decision not to do anything without knowing the consequences. I didn't drink until around 18 or 19... and I didn't try MJ until 18, despite many opprotunities. In some cases, drugs were more available to me and people my age than alcohol.

If drugs were legal, I would probably not do anything more than MJ. Having done research on MDMA (real ecstasy), I know that if you get real MDMA and not some concoction, you are much less likely to mess yourself up. There's a scare campaign about ecstasy. While education is good, it's important to point out that most of the stuff being passed off as ecstasy, isn't MDMA. I might try MDMA if it were legal, but not without doing a lot more research on the substance first.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:49 PM
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25. What legalization would be like in the market
I imagine with marijuana's legalization, the other drugs would fade in to nonexistance, as certainly (as pot smokers know) a strain of pot pretty much exists for a connosoir's fancy. Pot, wears off like drunkenness in my experience.

I use a titanium pipe and only smoke the pot buds in little bits. I presume were it legal,

a "pot" shop, the wine shop of the 21st century.

Here on the walls we see 1000's of little glass jars of various shapes on shelves... marked things like "South Island bloom 2005", "North Highland Naver MacKay northern light March 96 reserve" The bottles are vacuum packed and the bottles are coloured to keep the light from damaging the sensitive buds.

The sommolier of the 21st century is the cannabis druggist.

The package is about the same toxicity in pot as a wine bottle. The amount of an adult high -an evening- -an afternoon- I am inclined to purchase just one dose thank you, and not have any more around the house and i get tempted to overdo it if its all around, but i imagine my feeling is more like the german postwar generation that are all more obese, theoretically growing up in a climate of scarcity and hoarding leads to obesity?

Methinks similalry of cannabis overdoing it. Let me buy "1" smoke at the shop and take it home for a friday nights chillin' out. Then tax the smoke accordingly. Good cannabis is cheaper to buy than to grow, as the growing fertilizers that the big greeen houses use, are outstanding natural summers to create atrium buds, tight and sticky grown in a CO2 rich biosphere, the best greenthumb grower weed is better than most people's gardening skills, and since legalization, the speciality markets in cannabis have been exploding.

They tell me, there's a cannabis in the reserve of this vast "herbalist gallery" to tame and celibrate any mood. The shoppe interior is an art gallery, paintings hanging of elisabethan proportions. There is a spa next door, with 40 japanese hottub gardens rentable by the day, as in a hotel, where you can relax in a small zen garden with a hot tub with "Amsterdam 1999 Northern Lights" with a bunch of fresh towels.

It says over the door "Let them turn guns in to potfarms." :-)

I smoke it less since it became legal, as i don't have to buy it in the cumbersome "illegal" transaction, as when in that way, the pot is of unreliable quality, and of unknown breed strains. With legalization, i'll know exactly what type of weed works for my body and then buy that kind at the shoppe. Just like wine 100 years ago. The countries that grow, have all had a boom in a rural renissance, as many impoveraished areas and inner cities have turned in to places of peace and civility since the end of the drugs war. Why they pursued prohibition, over and over when all it does is tear up the street, human nature to self inflict wounds and kill and eat the children of the society. Darwinist Republican Bushism.

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spychoactive Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:18 PM
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29. that was beautiful^
utopia envisioned, and realized...it will be a good thing, but living in pennsylvania they cannot even get alcohol sales together...a bottle of merlot, a case of beer, and a six pack of phatty micro-brew, is three different stops...i can't see my fine commonwealth not mucking up your vision of utopia...

one love
spike
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:50 PM
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26. Not by a long shot
MJ is the only drug for me :smoke:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:57 PM
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27. I'm Too Old Now
My recreational drug use is behind me.

I would fear to see what ads the pharmacutical industry would bring out if hard drugs were legalized.

I already fear what they'll try to do if MJ is legalized.
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