Crossfire (12/9/03) Wes Clark and Terry McAuliffe (re: Dean & Gore)

[Wonk]

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/crossfire/

Gore's surprise endorsement
Tuesday, December 09, 2003 Ê

The campaign trail has taken CNN's Election Express to New Hampshire just as Al Gore's endorsement of Howard Dean shakes up the field. WeÕll have the latest. Next, presidential hopeful Wesley Clark soldiers on in his mission to capture the Democratic nomination. We'll talk to former general about his campaign. Plus, the chairman of the Democratic Party will weigh-in on the field, the Gore endorsement, and the direction of his party. Does the good news for Dean mean the nomination is his? Does it spell serious trouble for Joe Lieberman that Gore didn't endorse his 2000 running mate? We'll have all that and more starting at 4:30 p.m. ET.

TONIGHT'S GUESTS:
¥Ê Wesley Clark, Democratic presidential hopeful
¥Ê Terry McAuliffe, Democratic National Committee chairman
¥Ê Mark Penn, Lieberman senior adviser

[in_cog_ni_to]

1. Oh Good!

I hope he does his SMACKDOWN on Novak or Carlson! This should be good if they don't spend the entire time on Shelton. Thanks for the heads up!

[AntiCoup2K4]

2. I'll bet McUseless is pissed about this.

...Not that I care. Dean (or any candidate for that matter) winning without any help from that chickenshit bastard is exactly what I want to see. I hope Clark isn't siding with that sorry assed idiot, because it would lower my opinion of the General considerably.

[lastliberalintexas]

18. I don't think so

I'm not a Clark supporter (tho not a basher either!), but I don't think he's necessarily a fan of McAuliffe, even if he is somewhat aligned with the Clintons. I don't think Terry will still have a job if either Dean or Clark win. Maybe some Clark supporters can shed more light on this though?

[xultar]

3. GENERAL SMACKDOWN IS IN DA HOUSE YALL!!!

[robsul82]

4. It spells trouble for Joe Lieberman that...

...he's Joe Lieberman.

Oooooh, Clark's on Crossfire. Should be interesting. I especially liked that "I don't pay attention to endorsements - except when they're for me" line. That line is most exemplary of what separates Clark from a bunch of the other nine - an almost otherworldly charm. That line could've come off as grandiose or dumb or disgusting, but Clark made it charming. Good to see.

Later.

RJS

[Tatiana]

8. Funny remark. I like his honesty. n/t

[LuminousX]

9. It was all in the timing

It was perfect... you had that moment of 'What the f-, of course he cares about endorsements, that lyins s.o.b' and then he hits the second beat "except when they're for me." Brought down the house.

I love good humor.

[kaitykaity]

5. Oh, I really wish now I had cable.

This is gonna be sooo good. :bounce:

[Wonk]

34. mp3 here

5 M

[Wonk]

39. quicktime

95 M

[liberalnurse]

6. Oh my......

Maybe folks have been correct, there is party-division......I sure hope not.......I really want unity and God knows we need unity.

[robsul82]

7. Heheh...

"We'll ask the DNC Chairman if he agrees ."

HAHAHHAHHHAAHHA!

Later.

RJS

[robsul82]

10. Ooooh, Tucker goes with...

...a leading question to Clark that basically implies Clark's Clinton's boy. Snippy snippy, Tucker.

Later.

RJS

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Endorsements don't win elections!

Let's let the voters make that decision. RIGHT ON WES!

[flpoljunkie]

17. And followed that with"It's not about the powerful, it's about the people"

Taking Al Gore's populist slogan and turning it back on him.

[oasis]

35. good one.

[Terwilliger]

12. Begala is a fucking LIAR!

Dennis Kucinich does not say "Pack up the troops, bring 'em home" end of sentence...I really don't think Paul Beagleala should be deciding what Kucinich said

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. I agree.

just as Gore shouldn't be telling us who to support.

[Terwilliger]

19. hmmmm

:eyes:

god this is so unbelieveable

:nuke:

[trof]

27. Pardon my French, but

who the fuck is Begala FOR?
That schmuck is going after Clark like he's a repug.
Clark is doing a monumental job of keeping his temper.
Begala needs a HUGE bitch-slap!
No, he needs A KICK IN THE NUTS!
I don't claim him as a dem.
Go away.
<French off>

OH MAN!
The moveon commercial with Santa in the cowboy boots ROCKS.

[robsul82]

13. Clark explains the "healing war wounds" issue...

Apparently, Clark says it was a joke. "Politics is easy, humor's a little harder." Damn you and your charm, Wesley! ;)

Later.

RJS

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. Bitter?

Tucker, Tucker Tucker..."you seem bitter toward Dean." Clark laughed at him. hehe! Tucker is trying to bait him on the Dean...no war Dean and Clark in Nam.

[Snellius]

15. Clark's Iraq policy is exactly the same as Hillary's

that she outlined on MTP this Sunday. Liked the part about just having gotten off the phone with Bill. Nudge Nudge Wink Wink.

[returnable]

20. You're kidding, right?

Clark's Iraq strategy has been out there for awhile.

Clinton was cribbing from him...

[SahaleArm]

33. Exactly, Hillary created Clark's Iraq plan?

:eyes:

[robsul82]

21. "Unlike Al Sharpton...

...I haven't spent my entire life in pursuit of oratory...and a lot of other things." LOL

Later.

RJS

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. Begala is calling for

Clark to ATTACK the other candidates. "I'm running because people asked me to." THANK G-D HE'S RUNNING! :bounce:

[VolcanoJen]

23. Clark: "I Told You So" isn't a policy.

I have a feeling most Americans would agree with you, General.

[robsul82]

24. Saying it was wrong...

...against popular opinion and sticking to your guns at the time may not be a policy, but it's a damn good thing.

Later.

RJS

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. He's so awesome.

He wants voters to get to know HIM the man. He said it's "daunting" for people to be up in front of a 4 Star General. He wants the people to know HIM. <sigh> I love this guy. :loveya:

[robsul82]

26. Geez, Paul and Tucker...

You two might as well have been holding up signs reading GO NEGATIVE! and ATTACK DEAN NOW! on them.

That being said, Clark looked great, he'll probably look great tonight, I love the dude, and I hope he'll consider a VP slot. ;)

Later.

RJS

[trof]

28. Paul Begala is a pissant.

Go work for *.

[democracy eh]

29. interesting, first 10 minutes of Crossfire

devoted to the General
no political alert either

[oasis]

37. "no political alert". They have a different format since they're mobile.

[robsul82]

30. SET THE VCRs!

TUCKER CARLSON HAS DISCOVERED A JOE LIEBERMAN SUPPORTER! UP NEXT ON CROSSFIRE! GET THE KIDS!

Later.

RJS

[robsul82]

31. Oh, it's a pollster.

Still no signs of outside-the-campaign Joecember to Remember believers.

"Loyalty's never been Al Gore's strong suit." WHAT?!?

Later.

RJS

[Terwilliger]

32. you know why he said that

I think the DLC wanted Gore on the short leash from 1999 on but he wouldn't play ball during the campaign. THIS is why he's not "loyal" because he wouldn't sit there and just do what he was told.

[grasswire]

36. no...

...the "disloyal" comment has to do with Gore's distancing himself from Clinton during 2000 campaign.

[slinkerwink]

38. that's why the charges of Dean now as a DLC insider is silly

since he's endorsed by Gore, the guy who was pushed out of the DLC after the 2000 election.