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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:05 PM
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Bloodlust Cheney takes his overkill of ducks and pheasants on AF2
Just wanted to update you all on this story. Old Bloodlust takes his kill with him - you'd think the least these "sportsmen" could do is donate their kill to some shelters. I know Pennsylvania has an active program where hunters can donate their excess game. But not our dear VP.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/03343/249105.stm

One of Washington's big guns came to Westmoreland County yesterday for a day's shooting at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township.

For the second time in two years, Vice President Dick Cheney arrived at daybreak at Arnold Palmer Airport in Latrobe. Air traffic was halted briefly at about 7 a.m. as Air Force Two landed and Cheney's security detail loaded him and his favorite shotgun into a Humvee and drove up U.S. Route 30 to the exclusive country club.

"All I'm allowed to say is there's a big military plane on the ramp, and it's not the first time I've seen it there," said airport manager Gabe Monzo.

Cheney shot more than 70 ringneck pheasants and an unknown number of mallard ducks. The birds were plucked and vacuum-packed in time for Cheney's afternoon flight to Washington, D.C.

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fallow Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:09 PM
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1. Why is this a topic?
Why should he have to give them away?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:19 PM
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5. Cause it's overkill - they killed 400+ pheasants
and an unknown number of ducks. I wonder if they can eat all that kill themselves. It would've been a nice gesture for these rich "sportsmen" to have given some of their canned hunt kill to a shelter.

I have nothing against hunting, my grandfather was a hunter and as a kid I ate a lot of wild game in the winter. But a true hunter in my opinion stalks the wild game in its territory, take his chances, and takes only what game he needs for his table.

If this was in the mid-1800's guys like Cheney and his cabal would've been the ones shooting the buffalo from the trains, taking the hide, and leaving the rest to rot in the field and damn the Native Americans and the land.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:34 PM
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25. Becuase chances are very few made it into Cheney's freezer
and giving them to someone who is hungry is better
than chucking them into the Garbage .
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:10 PM
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2. Plucked and vacuum packed?
Just like taxpayers and Repub Congressmen?
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:12 PM
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3. Disgusting. You missed this bit.
John Smith, law enforcement supervisor for the Pennsylvania Game Commission, said he was alerted to Cheney's day-trip. Rolling Rock has a game-raising program worthy of a second-in-command, he said, and unlicensed bird hunting is legal this time of year for guests at private clubs.

Scott Wakefield, a dog handler at the club, said about 500 farm-raised pheasants were released from nets for the morning hunt. The 10-man hunting party that included Cheney shot 417 pheasants. The vice president was set to hunt ducks in the afternoon.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:18 PM
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4. We have hunters on DU
but releasing farm-raised pheasants so you can kill them for sport is barbaric.

If Cheney had to actually find pheasants in the wild the exercise would give him a heart attack.

Next...welcome to the Washington coliseum, it's the terrorists vs. the lions...
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:24 PM
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7. The real story here is
that Cheney used AF 2 for recreation. Taxpayers gift to his majesty.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:27 PM
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8. I'm sure there is a fundraising effort
associated with the trip, or some pseudo-official function
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:23 PM
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6. I haven't a problem with put-and-take hunting
but I think shooting, on average, 41 pheasants is excessive.
If they hunted for 5 hours, 300 minutes, the hunting party of ten was shooting more than once a minute!

Of course, that is Cheney's general approach to life.
If a little of something is needed a lot more is a LOT better.
Whether its money, secrecy, power...or as we've now learned...dead pheasants.



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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 01:58 PM
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17. I have a strong idea that the information
in this thread is incorrect. I have been hunting for 36 years.
It is simply not possible to kill that much wild game in a day.
Wild game is simply not that concentrated in one place and when the shooting starts they go away from the shooting not to the shooting.
Somebody should check their sources of info.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 02:11 PM
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20. The pheasants weren't "wild game"
They were farm-raised, released at a convenient moment for the "hunters".
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:51 PM
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26. I have hunted raised game.
It acts to differnt than wild game. It goes away from gunshots.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:32 PM
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9. Serial killers start out this way
Don't they?

417 pheasants?

A canned hunt - no skill involved, no essence of actually being out in the wild and experiencing the oneness with nature and the ethos of the spiral of life.

At what point does the thill go out just sitting in an ATV blasting away non stop at anything that moves?

I mean, jeezus christ.

Won't somebody ask this man if he has any shame whatsoever?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:52 PM
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11. 'Jes' try to get away, ya little bastard...BLAM!!!!'
there is a power issue here
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:48 PM
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10. There's a lot of anger in that man.
*
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 01:11 PM
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12. Very sporting of the American people
to pick up the tab for our #2 leader's 'sportsmanship'. No doubt, Cheney would really get a charge out of bear baiting. Even more exciting to sit in a tree and kill an animal who is eating the tasty lure you have left out for him. Now this is real 'sport'. Yeah...
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 01:29 PM
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15. When Cheney
found out that he couldn't do the same with iraqi children, he swore "Goddammit, then I'll go to Pennsylvania."
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 01:26 PM
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13. Save your rage for the important things.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 01:34 PM by msmcghee
Pheasants are prey animals. They are like Wildebeasts in Africa. In the wild none of them die of old age - they all die a violent death and end up in some critter's stomache.

Of course Cheney can't eat that many pheasants. But I'll bet his dinner guests could and his friends and relatives could if they recieved them as Christmas presents. Who's to say that a bunch of them won't end up at some shelter anyway?

I hate Cheney as much as anyone here - but when we hate him for things that other reasonable voters don't mind or even enjoy - especially if they are not immoral things, then we are seen as crazy Bush* hating liberals who are totally out of touch with reality - and our real gripes are tossed aside.

And in the end it hurts our cause.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 01:26 PM
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14. OK, so TinMan was seen alive yesterday...
Interesting...Guess he could come out of his "Secure, undisclosed location" long enough to blast away in a CANNED hunt...
Couldn't the recoil from a shotgun tear Chandra's heart loose or something?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 01:47 PM
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16. Someone Load this **cker in a Time Machine and Ship Him Back to 1350
Where he thinks he belongs.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 02:08 PM
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18. What a fucking pig he is.
Wonder if he used any exotic weapons on the "hunt" for 500 farm raised birds-a sporting chance indeed...:puke:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 02:11 PM
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19. one more disturbing aspect to the story
(though, I hasten to add, a virtually incomprehensible one):

Cathy O'Brien, an alledged victim of CIA mind control, has made wild claims about Cheney's love of the hunt, and that he doesn't restrict it to game birds: "Dick Cheney had an apparent addiction to the 'thrill of the sport.' He appeared obsessed with playing A Most Dangerous Game as a means of traumatizing mind control victims..."
http://www.trance-formation.com/book_excerpts/game.htm

She may be a traumatized victim of mind control, even of "Project Monarch", but I've been inclined to discount her wilder allegations as false memories. Partly, because I'd never seen Cheney as a sportsman. hmm...

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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 02:17 PM
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21. Interesting
I've corresponded with other alleged MK Ultra victims. All of them allude to these "games" that always seem to stop short of actual physical trauma, but are nonetheless psychologically terrifying. Pushing the victim into the water off a speedboat, and then driving by as close as possible. Rides in the coountry where they are taken into the woods and told to find their way back. etc.

It all seemed so absurd.

But, you never know. There's something about this international sex trade stuff that seems to point to elites in the Western World. A probe in Britain 6 mos. ago reached right into the Parliament before Blair shut it down

hmmm...
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:21 PM
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23. dupe
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 05:21 PM by Minstrel Boy
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:21 PM
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24. disturbing patterns all over the world
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 05:23 PM by Minstrel Boy
of sex rings involving ritual abuse, pedophilia and murder involving the elites and protected by the establishment. You mentioned Britain. In the US, there are the Franklin Credit Union and the White House call boys scandals that were covered-up under Bush the first. A notorious case in Belgium in recent years, and another in Portugal. And this one in France I just learned of: "Tales of orgies and murder rock France: Politicians and police linked to scandal." http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,967926,00.html

What's it mean? I don't know. At best a coincidence. At worst, what we're up against is even darker than we'd imagined.

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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 03:23 PM
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22. Cheney will be eating pheasant for Christmas and the unemployed will eat
shit. A.H. and what about the game regulations?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 11:30 PM
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27. Bush Won The Governor Of The Year Award From Safari International
Safari Club International is one of the most disgusting organizations related to hunting. Headquartered in Washington, they are dedicated to yearly safaris and banquet dinners at which endangered species are cooked and eaten. My uncle who has now passed away used to be hired annually as their chef when they had national meetings in Denver. He told me that it was painful to have to put live caged spider monkeys to death, because their shouts were almost human. He said their meat tasted very gamey and smelled like urine. I still have one of his menus that he saved from these occasions. It describes recipes for lion, Bengal tiger, penguin, and a host of other rare creatures. The Safari Club membership really gets off on this sick stuff. While he was Governor of Texas, Bush won the Governor of the Year Award because of his very lax policies in Texas with regarding to 'canned hunting', where, for example, old elephants or lions are bought from circuses or zoos and penned up in shooting galleries for noble and brave hunters to blow away at point blank range and feel like true sportsmen. Bush accepted the award, and sent his father to the annual banquet to accept it.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 10:13 AM
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28. Texas I read recently has the largest number of these
canned hunting preserves for large game. Sick f*ckers.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 09:44 PM
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29. Mike Malloy just saluted this charade of a hunt on air
Were the people who processed these dead birds on the public payroll?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 09:54 PM
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30. I am very pro-gun, but I don't care very much for hunting
I can appreciate the need for it in some circumstances, though I question it's recreational value. Guns are for protection: from homophobes, racist rednecks, anti-abortion wackos and runaway government powers.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 10:02 PM
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31. ooh big Dick with his big gun
what a fucking evil crock of shit. I hate that stinking slimeball with every fiber of my being.
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