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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:33 AM
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DOW 10,000 ...the recovery is offical <sigh>
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 09:39 AM by bearfartinthewoods


can this day get any better? NOT
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:35 AM
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1. It might not last long
There's a FOMC meeting this afternoon, and yesterday's vapor rally was on light volume. I wouldn't be surprised to see prices pull back due to caution and profit-taking.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:38 AM
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2. so you're saying that
after four years, we're back where we started? great.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:40 AM
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3. I Believe The Dow Peaked At 11, 700
the NASDAQ at 5,400

and the S& P at 1650....
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:41 AM
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4. we cannot deny that this is a symbol....
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:43 AM
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7. a symbol...that company profits from moving jobs overseas
and that the govt went deeper into debt to foster the market rise..for without that ..pension funds would be sunk
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:41 AM
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5. Wait until it closes above 10K
It's dropping back as I type.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:43 AM
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9. that's because i just sold.....<grin>
not that our meager holding count but i'm outta this.

we are very very...errr..ahhh..conservative in our investements.
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:42 AM
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6. & Mr. DOW is the candidate that we have to beat
...while everyone is busy with "my candidate is better than yours" crap, this is what is and will beat us. The American people know Mr. Dow but they have no idea who those nine no-namers are who they don't listen to and don't care about. If Mr. Dow dives, then they will listen. I think maybe we should start putting a message together instead of just Bush bashing--because here is a prime example of having the ground drop out from under us. Everything we bitch about with Bush can either be resolved by election '04 or masked by excellent propaganda by the repukes. We better stop coming from just the "attack Bush" mode and actually say something.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:43 AM
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8. LOL! The three-second "recovery"
Dropped again even before CNN could find Blowhard Jack Cafferty to come out and fawn over Bush for his great economic leadership!
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:44 AM
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10. Unfortunately too many people
view the Dow as an indicator of the economy, which it clearly is not. It only reflects that companies are managing to work the numbers in their favor - but it says nothing of the strength of those numbers or the health of the economy that supports them. This country (and the rest of the world) are going to be screwed in the next few years from a recession that Dow 10k or 11k or 50k is not going to prevent.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:45 AM
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11. When the 3 MILLION jobs come back, THEN the
recovery will be official.

Don't believe the ReThugs or the media whores.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:58 AM
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17. Jobs! Not Wal-Mart jobs, but REAL jobs!
No offense to those who work at Wal-Mart, but higher-paying manufacturing jobs being replaced by "greeter" positions does not constitute a recovery.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:46 AM
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12. really
the Dow hits 10,000 and 3 million jobs suddenly re-appear. A high Dow might be good news for a few, but to most people the Economy=jobs, and good paying ones with benefits not part time Wal-Mart.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:48 AM
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13. I think all of the people who still don't have jobs
or who have taken dramatic salary cuts in the last few years certainly wouldn't agree.

The ONLY people who have seen an economic recovery are those who already had a ton of money to begin with — you know the ones the GOP has helped through tax cuts, capital dividends, inheritance tax, etc.

Do you think the families who are seeing their unemployment run out Dec. 21 are whooping it up on the stock market news?
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:49 AM
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14. Why are people so stupid? The market is not the economy.
Profits are being generated through reductions in the workforce and an increase in productivity. The workers are angry.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:53 AM
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16. Productivity
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:59 AM
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19. Excellent cartoon!
Pretty much sums it all up. Thanks for posting it. :D
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:51 AM
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15. Doesn't seem to bear much relationship
to our economic reality though.
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cspiguy Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 09:59 AM
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18. It's a looong way to november (see Bush 92)
n/t
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:02 AM
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20. now it's only down 20 percent from its high, heh
EOM
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RWPTRBL Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:22 AM
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21. GREAT!!!
Recovery is official..I better get by the phone to wait for the job offers to start rolling in!!!
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Patriot_Spear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:22 AM
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22. With a net loss of 2 million jobs...?
I don't think so.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:26 AM
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23. Yep. The rich have taken their dividend tax cuts.......
and decided to put it in the stock market, rather than investing in jobs.
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lewiston Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:29 AM
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24. Don't any of you guys have 401k's
I'm celebrating.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:40 AM
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26. Yeah. I'm taking money out of mine to live on....
because I don't have a job....
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:46 AM
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28. Better cash in your 401k before the election
This is a propped up market, held in place by the corporate Bush backers(ever hear of the Plunge Protection Team). This market recovery comes in the midst of an economy that is still hemorraging jobs and red ink. But like Pavlov's dog, everybody is well trained only to focus on the Dow. Well, the Dow is going to muddle along through '04, maybe peaking around 11,000. But I can guarantee you that once Bushco is reselected(yes, I'm making book on that too), the down is going to tumble, along with what's left of the economy. Hell, I'm even in good company on this prediction, Barrons is also calling this a suckers' market. Don't be one, get out while the getting is good.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:38 AM
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25. So what's this really mean?
That the the 1% who account for about $300BB of the federal treasury give away have invested their money in the market?

Whoopty-doo.
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Bush loves Jiang Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:42 AM
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27. The pukes must be rigging the market again.
*shudders*
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:50 AM
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29. This is a false recovery driven by market capitalisation
the lack of jobs underpins this. It ain't Chicken Little time yet. If you were banking on winning based on economic figures, that's not the way to win an election.
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