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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 03:47 AM
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Poll question: LIHOP, MIHOP, or neither?
Edited on Sat Dec-06-03 03:52 AM by SeveneightyWhoa
After eight years of Clinton, the Bushistas finally get into power through undemocratic and desperate means..and one year later, the biggest terror attack in history, which benefitted them in ways unimaginable to most and served to further their agenda. A little too convenient? Or have they just taken advantage of "the new Pearl Harbor"?

If you dont know by now, LIHOP = let it happen on purpose, MIHOP = made it happen on purpose.

P.S. This thread has been inspired by Dean's recent words, Krauthammer's Washington Post article calling Dean "delusional" for even bringing up the fact that conspiracy theories about 9/11 exist, and the recent news of James A. Baker's appointment by Bush to help out in Iraq.
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Coldgothicwoman Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 03:49 AM
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1. LIHOP
I can agree with those who say MIHOP would be too difficult. But LIHOP is completely consistent IMHO.

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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 03:49 AM
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2. what's the difference between LIHOP and MIHOP? n/t
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 03:52 AM
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3. I just edited the post.
Sorry, I had "let" in both, replaced one with "made it happen on purpose". That should clarify things.
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 03:55 AM
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5. after thinking about it, I figured it out
:)

thanks.
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 04:17 AM
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6. LIHOP means "Bush Let It Happen On Purpose." MIHOP means
he "MADE It Happen on Purpose." In other words, he didn't just know about the pending terrorist attacks; he helped plan or perpetrate them.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 04:22 AM
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8. PASSIVE -vs- ACTIVE participation
both acts are considered TREASONOUS when committed by someone who has SWORN to preserve, protect and defend the constitution.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

peace
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 06:07 AM
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11. I consider sitting there and listening to a goat story
while 3,000 were being murdered to be disgraceful in and of itself.

"We didn't want to upset the children." Well, when 3,000 lives are on the line, suddenly not upsetting children isn't nearly as important.
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 03:53 AM
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4. MIHOP = ?
Have always wondered about LIHOP, now I know and thanks. Is you definition for MIHOP wrong?
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 04:19 AM
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7. It would be almost preposterous to suspect anything less than
LIHOP. But the extraordinary events, non-events and coincidences lead me to conclude that Bush's involvement goes beyond LIHOP. Of course, he could always emulate Janklow and claim he was just having a bad diabetic reaction during the months preceding the terrorist attacks.
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Ani Yun Wiya Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 05:00 AM
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9. I believe another possibility.
DIFFAP.
Did It For Fun And Profit.

LIHOP assumes greater risk taking than the * crew will allow.
MIHOP assumes too little participation.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 05:53 AM
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10. No clear evidence for either LIHOP or MIHOP
--just a suggestive puzzle with half the pieces missing, which a lot of people try to fill in with magic markers and their own imaginations.

What we actually can be sure of is that Bush, in a sense, chose 9-11. There are his business relations with the Saudi funders of 9-11, and the CIA which wants to maintain its relationship with Pakistan's ISI. Investigations leading to embarrassment for either of these parties were blocked.

It's like a gruesome safety film I once saw featuring a chemical spill. The excessively modest chemist ran to the lab shower, but didn't want to take off his clothes. Due to embarrassment, he chose more severe injuries. Administration embarrassment at revealing ties with the perps is a similar kind of choice.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 07:34 AM
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12. I believe in a version of LIHOP
LIHTI. (Let it happen through incompetence)

I believe the Bush* administration was so focused on marketing the fake president and blaming everything on Clinton that they ignored very real information that 911 was going to happen. I think Bush* and Rice and her deputies were completely out of it when it came to the terrorism threat. They were too busy planning how the spoils of the stolen presidency would be distributed.

I don't really think it matters whether it was LIHTI, LIHOP or MIHOP. We know that American citizens will hold steadfastly to their denial, even in the face of Democracy-destroying criminality (the stolen election of 2004). If evidence was made public that Bushco allowed 911 to happen in order to justify imperial preemptive attacks on other countries and to boost Bush's* image, it would require people to get off their butts and take to the streets. With the exception of the families who personally lost someone in 911, they aren't ready to do it yet. They won't believe that everything they hold dear is so threatened. YET.
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 09:37 AM
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13. kick! n/t
n/t
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