Ok...Candidate Partisans: Do you "Hate" another Dem candidate?

[JanMichael]

Do you? Can you honestly say that as a Deanie that you "Hate" Clark? Or you Clarkie, do you "Hate" Dean, can you honestly say that? Same for the other Partisans: Do you "Hate" a competing candidate and would you ever say it here?

I thought that we were all pretty much on the same team here regardless of vitriolic comments about competeing candidates...

HATE?



PS~ I fully expect a locking of this thread so "I'm sorry, I just couldn't help myself".

[poskonig]

1. I love all candidates!

:pals:

[Mattforclark]

2. nope

clicked 'no' before I saw the 'who would possibly...' anwer. But I am sure that at least a few people will say they hate various candidates. Too bad, so sad.

[Walt Starr]

3. Clark is currently my number one

Everybody else is tied for number 2.

This could change...

[Terwilliger]

4. I was going to say "This isn't helpful"

but then I saw your rejoinder

[JanMichael]

6. Thanks. I guess that I was just appaled that a partisan here would...

..."Hate" their candidates chief compitition.

Necessary to point out? I think so.

[Khephra]

5. The only Democrat that I actually will say I hate isn't a candidate

And that's Zell Miller. I may hate their actions, but I don't hate any of the candidates.

[deminflorida]

7. No way....If Howard Dean wins the nomination....

I will support him, heart and soul. I support Clark because he specifies the Middle Class TAX issue better. Plus, I served during the former Yugosalvia campaign. I know personally, from when I resided in Europe what a great leader General Clark is. Europe as a whole owes him a great deal of gratitude. If Dean would just bend a little on that damn Tax issue......but I don't think he will, and he's DOA for the general election on that one issue. Other than that I think Dean would make a great President. I don't think he'll get there without facing that issue however.

[Zynx]

12. He'll change that tax position at the convention.

He left himself an opening by saying a simpler and fairer tax code is what he wants. He will change this into some kind of middle class accomodation.

[arewethereyet]

8. I don't hate anyone

but there are several really bad candidates if your goal is the WHite House.

[sweetheart]

9. honestly?

Some of the candidates worry me...

Lieberman makes me sick to look at... granted less sick than *, but not much less sick. Its not hate.. nausea.

Dean has violence and anger in his eyes in the pictures i've seen... it worries me. Its not hate... queezyness.

Edwards seems immature and adolescent in his attention. The hubris in his own mind that suggests to himself he's ready to be president worries me... but i don't feel sick from him.

Kerry seems drained to me, like his life force is being leeched away from him by a negative human relationship around his person... and his greyness concerns me... though i find his heart to be solid gold... this upsets me to see him weaker than he should be.

NADER seems destructive and grossly foolish to presume to destroy another election... and he makes me as sick as *... even sicker, as he betrays everyone and supports nothing.... barf.


Clark, gephardt, mosley braun, sharpton, kucinich all strike me as balanced and healthy people. I have no concerns or feelings that would betray any seeing worth writing. I could serve, live and die for them all were need be.

No hate...

[britpopper]

10. No hate here...

That is strictly reserved for those who are blinded by republicant nonsense, but as far as "hating" a fellow Democrat, that is simply preposterous! I've got nothing but love for the entire Democratic party, just because I don't necessarily agree with absolutely everything they might say or do, I can rest assured that their heart is in the right place as long as they claim Democrat...

[LWolf]

11. nope

No hate.

A certain level of discomfort with a few; but no dislike.

[sendero]

13. I don't hate any of them...

... but I wish a few of them would get real and drop out already :)

[TreasonousBastard]

14. What's to hate...

about any of them? Hate is such a wasteful emotion, and accomplishes nothing.

[JanMichael]

15. Why don't the "Hate" voters post a comment?

I'd like to know what drives such internecine passion, really, I would:-)

[Julien Sorel]

16. LOL

Blowback.

[JanMichael]

19. But you're a "Hater" right? Why no declaration here?

Don't mind the mods, seriously, have at it.

[Julien Sorel]

22. I've explained whom and why many times.

If you were too taken aback by the 'hate' to note it, now would be a good time to avail yourself of the powerful search options this place has.

[JanMichael]

25. Not "Too"...."So" perhaps.

I have no desire to waste bandwidth on your day old posts, I'll simply refer to your ever constant "Dean Hate" comments, thank you:-)

<look up at the subject line>

[Andromeda]

44. Hate is a wasted emotion...

and I would really like to read a comment from the hate voters too. Obviously they are taking this political campaign personally which I can understand in a sense, but to actually hate one of our candidates is kind of beyond the pale. I have a good idea who the posters are, however, and I would be very surprised if they come out and admit it. If they do reveal themselves I would only tell them one thing:

Go on medication, you need it.

[NNadir]

17. I don't hate any Democrat.

A few of the less popular candidates are out to lunch, but none of them are as evil as Bush, and we need fear even our worst. I'd vote for any of them over Bush.

Even my chosen candidate, who in my mind is an excellent candidate who will make an excellent president, has flaws. I am sure that when he is President, he will also do things with which I will not agree. But I believe in compromise because I believe in Democracy. I don't hate anyone in the Democratic Party.

I do hate, and am proud to hate, the reactionary fools who are looting our country, strangling it's future and usurping our democracy. The doublespeak Republican Propaganda machine can whine as much as it likes about my hatred of them and their turkey boy, but to me such hatred is consistent with my patriotism. It is perfectly alright to defend one's nation against enemies who would destroy it, and perfectly OK to hate them, and make no mistake, the plunderers are out to destroy this country for mealy personal gain. The American constitution is a precious heritage, and if we are not furious to defend it, we are not worth what we have been given by our forebearers.

[sandnsea]

18. I really really don't like Dean

I mean I really really really don't. I've used the word hate a few times, probably over the top. But it's very close.

I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't own up to it when asked, so I am.

[JanMichael]

21. You actually "Hate" Dean?

Look....I'm a goddamned Socialist for fucks sake, so If I can tolerate ANY of these pretenders why can't...I see...I'm the pragmatic freak...

[sandnsea]

36. Pretty close

I think he's a phony fraud. I'll just leave it there because once I get to going on Dean....

[Andromeda]

47. What if Dean is our candidate...

what will you do then? It's been against the forum's policy to trash the Democratic contender for POTUS---and if it's Dean you're going to have to curb your "hate" for him or become the object of many alerts. The mods have never tolerated that in the past in such a crucial election and I don't think they will this time.

[sandnsea]

50. Oh, I'm supporting Bush

Yard signs, bumper stickers, the whole 9. :eyes:

I don't need someone to tell me the rules. I'm 46 years old and have gotten along quite well all these years. Thanks just the same.

[Bombtrack]

20. I hate Dean

he might as well be Bush's sidekick

[JanMichael]

23. Care to enunciate that rather extreme opinion?

Other than being the, sometimes, frontrunner as opposed to Edwards (Who is in MY top three) why would you accuse him of such horrible things?

Hate? I find that hard to believe...

[Lorien]

34. Every time you see a statement like that

they usually have nothing to back it up with. Dean, Clark, Kerry, et al are all just "Bush lite" or "no better than Bush"...how so? I would gladly take any of them over the fascists in office now! Yes, Kucinich is the most liberal, and certainly holds views closest to my own, but I don't think he can win. Not because I see failings in Kucinich, but because America simply isn't evolved enough yet to elect such a man (in fact, our beloved country has done some serious DEevolving in the past ten years or more), and no amount of shouting or praying will change that fact anytime soon.We must work with what we are given, and work hard to move our Nation back to the center-left...we'll worry about the ideal candidate for the liberal left once we've managed that feat.

[sandnsea]

39. The center-left

Yes, I'd like to put up a candidate that would actually move us to the left if he won; center-left, something. There's a couple out there that would do that and a couple who would leave us dang near where we are right now. That's why the last 10 years is important to me. What makes them tick, what do they really think. In the long run, not just during the campaign.

[Andromeda]

48. Bullshit! n/t

[sandnsea]

51. Hate is a wasted emotion

and I would really like to read a comment from the hate voters too. Obviously they are taking this political campaign personally which I can understand in a sense, but to actually hate one of our candidates is kind of beyond the pale. I have a good idea who the posters are, however, and I would be very surprised if they come out and admit it. If they do reveal themselves I would only tell them one thing:

Go on medication, you need it.

Oh wait, that was what you said to somebody about being hateful. Never mind, or go on medication, whichever. Gonna alert on me?

[CalebHayes]

24. We can't hate each other!!!

We are going to be united under one candidate. So lets get over each other. Please, don't act like small children (Well I do hate Nader... That jerk!!).

[Zomby Woof]

26. nope

I have been accused of it quite often, but that's just silly emotionalism from the thin-skinned people who can't seem to handle an honest assessment of their idol, I mean their candidate.

Hate does not equal criticism, even scathing and honest criticism.

[Devlzown]

27. No hatin' here!

:hi:

[Rowdyboy]

28. Why would I hate one of the good guys?

Not me, not now. Too much is at stake.

[LSdemocrat]

29. No, I would gladly campaign for ALL of them in the general eleiction

But I'm working for Dean in the primaries.

[Kool Kitty]

30. Hell, no.

I admit that I am partial to Clark, but we have a great bunch of candidates, don't we? I like all of them and whoever gets the nod, gets my support.

[dansolo]

31. Lieberman and Gephardt are the only ones I really hate

They are backstabbers to the party. I like Dean and Clark. I'm neutral about Edwards, and I am not comfortable with Kerry or Kucinich. And I am completely indifferent to Sharpton and Mosely-Braun.

[sandnsea]

37. Gephardt's fine with me

I don't like that he went ahead with the IWR without fully consulting everybody in the party, but I look at his entire career. He has been right on a whole lot of issues from NAFTA to Medicare to union rights over the years. He's been right when many others have been wrong. So I give him alot of credit for that. I think he was honestly trying to do the right thing with that vote, as I think everybody was. The situation with Iraq was alot more complicated than "war for oil" in my mind. So he's okay with me. I like Clark too. But Dean, ick.

[no name no slogan]

32. I may seriously dislike certain candidates' platforms,...

...but I do not "hate" any of them. I don't even "hate" the Shrub-- however, I would like to help find him a better employment situation; preferably one where he'd be breaking large rocks into smaller rocks for his crimes against humanity. But, seeing as he has a problem with certain foods, it would be best if pretzels were kept away from our boy, please. :D

Seriously, hate is the most destructive emotion there is. It can consume you and take all your energy. Nothing good ever comes of hate.

[ultrafoil]

33. Yep

Deans an asshole, couldn't possibly win OR run the country.

I hate the dumb fuck for his chutzpah.

[Andromeda]

46. We're going to have to say goodbye to you then...

if Dean is chosed as our candidate you won't be allowed to trash him on DU once the presidential campaign starts.

[Selwynn]

35. I "hate" Joe Liebermann

I dont really hate any of them, but if Joe got the nomination, I would have to think every day up to election day about how I would cast my vote - especially since I live in a state that will not be in play anyway (Idaho.)

[Melodybe]

41. People *Bush is the ENEMY !

Please don't damn the rest of us, just b/c your candidate may not get the nom. I would happily campaign for anyone but Lieberman. That fucker is not a democrat! I personally like Dean but I would gladly campaign for Clark (I think that Clark is the cutest but that is not important), Edwards, Kuncinich, Sharpton,Kerry, Gephart, or Braun, if they were the nom. Even if you think Dean is the smarmiest asshole alive HE IS BETTER THAN *BUSH! Can a man that cites Lao Tzu as his favorite philosopher be that bad?

Please we HAVE TO UNITE behind whoever gets the nomination, otherwise you might as well vote for the Shrub. In which case I have to ask are you a freaking masochist? WTF!

[Selwynn]

42. I would never vote for Bush -

-but I would also never vote for someone I believed to be as bad as Bush.

However, if I believed another guy wasn't as bad as bush, then I would vote for them, even if it wasn't my first choice. In other words, I am going to vote for the person I believe to be the best candidate.

Don't get me wrong, I would vote for Kerry, Gephardt, Clark, Dean, Kucinich, Edwards, Sharpton, Braun, and maybe - MAYBE - I would even bite the bullet and vote for Joe. So don't worry about me. Joe isn't getting the Dem nomination, and I will vote for whatever candidate does.

And trust me, there are some candidates that I really don't like, and I'm still saying that I do believe they would do a better job in office than Bush and that I will vote for them despite the fact that I won't be able to call them "my candidate."

My point is however, that if a candidate was nominated that I fundamentally disagreed with to the point that I did not see him/her as better than Bush, then I wouldn't just vote for him/her because I'm a Democrat.

[neuvocat]

38. This is absolutely pointless.

I'm glad threads can be hidden. What a waste.

[ryharrin]

40. Don't hate any of them.

Its just that all the candidates besides Dean bore me to tears.
p.s.- Oops! Forgot about Sharpton and Braun. Love them, not boring at all.

[burning bush]

43. Once, I hated Lieberman, because...

I think he was a turncoat to Gore. I give Lieberman some of the responsibility for the 2000 theft, and I really hated him for that.

Then, I got over my Lieber-revulsion. Now the guy mildly annoys me, like, when he speaks. I can't listen to his voice. I feel like he is speaking down to everyone. His voice might put me to sleep, if it didn't irritate so highly.

But, no more hate...

[Hoppin_Mad]

45. I detest Lieberman - but don't hate him ;-)

[Piperay]

49. Clark is my guy but

I absolutely do NOT hate any of the other candidates, I love ALL of them that are taking willing to take on the chimp regime. :grouphug: