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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 12:52 PM Original message |
Dusty Baker refuses to back down from racially, factually dubious comments |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. LOL! Dusty hasn't read recent studies that demonstrate pigmentation |
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BrettStah (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. He probably won't lose his job over this... |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yep, that's what I was thinking too |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Baker agrees with this |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 03:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. That's bullshit... |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. Come on |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. BFD!,,,,,,,,,,,,such a thing as being too politically correct! |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Good for him for spouting BS? Sure. OK. |
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chiburb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. How can managing the Cubs |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Zing! I didn't quite think of it from that angle. |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Good for him? |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 06:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
89. can we now assign all the hot jobs to blacks and keep the whites in the |
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GOPFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. Just more proof that race... |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. He wasn't discussing anything rationally |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. Right but wrong |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. And to think, if his Giants hadn't choked last year, he'd be my hero |
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Lady President (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
11. Pardon the Interruption Discussed This Last Night |
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anti_shrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. It's much ado about something... |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. You are right, this is something we need to be very wary of |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Well |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. We agree. It's the double-standard I object to. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. watching discussion on this right now on CNN |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Let him |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 03:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. He didn't say that. |
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austinboy (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I'm with you Cat |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. me neither |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I think where he was coming from |
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NYYFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Well Said- that was the point |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
63. Jimmy the Greek |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Thanks for clearing that up about Campanis |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 03:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
43. Hmmmmm.... |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. ah, the stalked becoming the stalker |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. and I can't speak for others |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Could have fooled me... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 05:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 05:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. meanwhile...lott is just a kindly fellow |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 05:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. YEP |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. how does his statement "hurt" you? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. curious: what does this have to do with affirmative action? |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Affirmative Action means to me special consideration |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. if it's so offensive, then why do you keep using it? |
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beanball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
68. The N word |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. i don't understand why |
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southernfried (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. is it odd that Jimmie the Greek gets vilified and Dusty doesn't ? |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. So, |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. you forget |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Yes, but where are all the white players collapsing from the heat? |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. are you responding to me? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. explain the similarities, would you please? |
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southernfried (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. that blacks were blessed with physiques more conducive to |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. thanks...i vaguely remember |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 02:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. What he actually said was a little different |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 03:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. thanks... |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 03:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Jimmy said that the darwinism of surviving the slave ships is what |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. I think... |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. no dah, but adaptation and athletic aren't the same thing |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Or... |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. He also made comments about survival on slave ships |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Sorry... |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Not true. Lack of food is the reason Shetlands are smaller than |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Trent Lott... |
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SweetZombieJesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Uh huh...because there wasn't any established history of Lott making.. |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I don't see any "Facts" in your post. |
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SweetZombieJesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Look it up |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 11:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
93. Trent Lott's history |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. So, what he said was OK, then |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Oh YES!!! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. there's nothing "racist" about longing for segregation |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. The Republicans made Lott step down |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
64. OMG, I can't believe you said that |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 10:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
92. Then what was he doing when |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 07:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
91. there was more...... |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
37. Wow, I must be really young or something. |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 03:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I don't think it's racist, I think it was stupid |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 03:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Dubious? |
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TheUnionDemocrat (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
44. Any scientists here? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. try google |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 05:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
88. Deleted message |
Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 06:41 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Eh, hold on a sec, T. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
59. I care more about what Bush thinks than Dusty Baker thinks |
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haymaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
61. Aren't Latino and black players' ancestry |
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jiacinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
73. This is BS |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Except he's a baseball manager |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. It's the double-standard |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 05:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. I wouldn't really care if a white baseball manager said |
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jiacinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. I see no difference |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 05:12 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. He was talking sunburns not IQs |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. i always expect depth from you |
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classics (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
75. People who evolved in hotter climates will deal with heat better. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-03 05:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. There is a caveat |
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