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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:38 PM
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All Religions are the same
I think it's funny how much animosity is created debating which is better....

Look at the Greek Gods Mythology.....

How different is it REALLY to Christianity.

Christians believe in ONE god. BUT there are angels and archangels. These are not simply dead people but creatures that predated humans and lived in heaven. Apparently they are pretty powerful too, for Lucifer rebelled against God and came pretty close to winning.

So how does this differ from Zeus and the lesser gods.....

And

Zeus had a son, born of a mortal woman,
he performed many miracles,
did many great things,
was betrayed and died a painful death,
and was later raised and brought to Zeus...
that sounds kinda familiar.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:42 PM
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1. This is a productive discussion
Boy. Yep, we got President Bush in the White House, taking us to war on fictitious reasons, trashing the environment, trashing the economy, and one year to get him out or else we'll invade Syria. So obviously the best thing we could spend our time doing is driving all religious people out of the Democratic party by mocking their beliefs. Brilliant!

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:45 PM
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4. who was mocking?
Edited on Wed Dec-03-03 12:46 PM by KensPen
I don't know how I would describe my personal beliefs...
I do believe in something.
I was trying to point to the Universal aspects of religion that often get buried when arguing the diffences.
If there is a god it would be beyond comprehension, and I think God, Allah, Zeus, are all aspects or faces of some universal truth.

And I made this thread in response to the many other threads I have read about Christianity in this Forum.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:47 PM
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7. Perhaps i underestimated you
But certainly you recognize that if you say that Christianity and Greek Mythology are essentially the same, you have to expect someone to assume you are saying that all religion is fictitious.

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:48 PM
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8. well wait...why were the Greek gods fictitious?
are you mocking them?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:49 PM
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9. I recommend you look into Mithraism
Lots of similarities there.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:57 PM
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17. In many ways...
But certainly you recognize that if you say that Christianity and Greek Mythology are essentially the same, you have to expect someone to assume you are saying that all religion is fictitious.


In many ways they are exactly the same.

They generally have a leader/hero/god. That person lived quite a while ago and some, many, or all the details of his or her life are fictitious. They have been embellished over the decades and centuries, with a little added here and a little left out there and a few details borrowed from somewhere else.

Religion is not fact. It isn't supposed to be. It is supposed to be truth.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:46 PM
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5. it's mocking to suggest that the gods of disparate religions are...
one in the same? That's mocking?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:51 PM
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11. It's not mocking, it's called Comparitive Mythology
For that subject, I recommend Jospeh Campbell as the foremost authority ever to have lived.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:54 PM
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15. I ddin't think any of it was mocking
but the suggestion was that it was "mocking" to suggest that there is actually only one god even though those religions seem to believe in different gods.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:02 PM
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18. Agree, and this is the wrong forum unless there is a political
or public policy theme to the post
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:43 PM
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2. Mmmmmmmmmm flamebait
And has nothing at all to do with politics, but oh well.

I suppose it doesn't matter to you that most, if not all people of some kind of faith at this website do not spend time debating "which is better," does it?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:44 PM
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3. Bet this thread
doesn't last long. Interesting post however.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:46 PM
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6. Well, the myth of a dying god is fairly unicultural
The dying god is usually resurrected or reborn in some form.

You can see it in the myths of Osiris who dies and is reborn as Horus.

Odin hangs on the Tree Of Life, Yggdrasil, for three days in order to bring knowledge of the Futhark runes to humanity.

If you read The Golden Bough by James George Frazer you can see other examples:

http://digital.library.upenn.edu/webbin/gutbook/lookup?num=3623

There is also a subtle version of it in the myth of the Buddha where The Buddha achieves Nirvana but becomes reincarnated.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:50 PM
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10. Where's the politics or public policy issue?
In the rules Non politics and public policy threads are invited to go to the lounge or the meeting room.




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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:52 PM
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13. a reach but nevertheless
As Bush runs the nation motivated by his particular religious bias perhaps a discussion of religion and its place in life is pertinent........
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:53 PM
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14. I have seen
NUMEROUS topics about Christianity in this Forum the past couple days,
so I assumed this was the appropriate place to post this.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:52 PM
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12. Lots of things pop up in alot of cultures
Afterlifes of course, an interesting one is vergin births, messiahs are also common, in some cases these are a result of common human interests, in some cases its a result of borrowed or mixed stories. Religions werent developed in a vacuum. They mixed and intermingled. Also, in the case of any religion that spread over other cultures, like christianity, it adopted charecteristics from the places it spread to. Lots of christian stories are adapted pagen stories. People in lands that were converted didnt just stop telling thier old stories, they just adapted them.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:54 PM
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16. All religions are the same, no.
All religions are based on the same god filtered thru different cultures, maybe. I've beleived that for a while now.

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:18 PM
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19. Like the blind men and the elephant...
we all have bits and pieces of a larger truth.

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