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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:22 PM
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Bush has scriptural advisors highlighting daily passages relevant to him?
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 09:23 PM by khephra
George Bush likes his Bible - as, more quietly, does Tony Blair - and is reported to have scriptural advisers who highlight daily passages relevant to his presidency. These theological bodyguards would have failed in their duty if they did not this week direct America's highest eyes to John 20:25: "Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe."

MORE................

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/columnist/story/0,9321,1006346,00.html

I don't seem to remember hearing this before, but from what we've heard about Bush's "baseball book of terrorists" with "x"s crossed over the ones who are taken out and the one budget with cartoons added to it a couple of years back, I don't doubt this. His staff treats him like the child he is, and Bush doesn't even notice.

And I also wouldn't be surprised if that's literal too. I can just imagine Bush being handed a Bible with new lines highlighted in yellow every day.

Not only is the man a false Christian imo, he's a lazy one at that.

Plus this ties into the whole "he's been chosen by God" BS too.



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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:25 PM
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1. May I ask?
Is this any different than Nancy Reagan's astrologers? What is it with the Repukes. Are they looking for miracles to make up for their failed policies?
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:30 PM
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3. Any time rulers seek answers in the stars or in religion
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 09:31 PM by khephra
It always seems to me that they're trying to justify their actions as destiny or fate. Maybe they want the absolution that comes with not being responsible for their own actions? A bit of an inner guilt coming forth?

Nahhhh, not in Bush's case. Maybe Nancy, but never Bush. He doesn't have the capacity for guilt.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:39 PM
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5. Well put Keph.
We,the people, need to get these rulers out of our houses of government. The new age of scientific discovery starting in this millenium is no time for dogmatic king/priests to be waging wars in the name of their false gods, especially not with taxpayer's money.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 04:52 PM
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19. exactly khephra.it takes a soul to feel guilt
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wontmoveon Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 09:31 PM
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28. Here's one for him: "Thou shalt not bear false witness..."
and here's another: "Thou shalt not kill"
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:27 PM
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2. An old Peter Sellers movie comes to mind here
It was called 'Heavens Above'

It was about a minister who tried to put the actual teachings into effect in his own parish and life, and of course was a comedy.

At one point someone said to him "and Judas went out and hanged himself. Go thou and do likewise"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:32 PM
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4. Yeah, cause he sure as hell couldn't do it himself.
bush is such santimonious hypocrite. who doesn't believe in anything but the god of oil. he gives religion a Bad Name. And his own church called upon him to Repent. Repent you sinner!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:40 PM
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6. A lot of people have books (or get e-mails) of daily Bible readings,

for inspiration, not unlike secular "thought for the day" books/ calenders/ e-mails. Is this what Bush* gets, or do advisers suggest verses that should be considered in the way people consider horoscopes? Inquiring minds hope it's the former, not the latter.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:44 PM
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8. Daily passages that are in general...well, that's cool
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 09:44 PM by khephra
But if he's got people who are reading Bush into the Bible as a "chosen one"--as we've heard before in multiple articles and from multiple sources--and then giving him those verses to read, well, that's 100% CREEPY.

That's why I threw this out here. I haven't heard about this before and I'd like to hear some more before I decide to start looking for 666's on Bush's forehead. ;-)
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:46 PM
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9. Well most people have to read the Bible and horoscopes on their own time.
I want our President reading reports from the CIA, FBI, mail from foreign embassies, heads of state, etc, when he is on America's dime. He can read the Bible and his horoscopes on his own time.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:42 PM
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7. I recommend 1 Timothy 6:10
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 09:43 PM by TahitiNut
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."


We humans have invented a creature for which the love of money is its sole motivation: the corporation. Those who form its will and surrender themselves to its care and feeding truly live in the belly of the beast.


On capitalism and investment banking ...

Exodus 22:25
"If you lend money to My people, to the poor among you, you are not to act as a creditor to him; you shall not charge him interest."

Deuteronomy 23:19
"You shall not charge interest to your countrymen: interest on money, food, or anything that may be loaned at interest."

Psalms 15:5
"He does not put out his money at interest,
Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent.
He who does these things will never be shaken."

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:47 PM
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10. I recommend
Pinning the Beatitudes to his shirt. Maybe a tattoo?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:21 PM
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11. "Bush" SUCKS "Spiritual Advisors" n/t
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phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:04 PM
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12. I saw a relevant passage from the Egyptian Book of the Dead...
...in a museum exhibit once. I found it online, I think it's a soul giving account that it hasn't been a total prick when it walked the earth. Of the things mentioned in the litany, Bush is guilty of most of them --

" Hail, Usekh-nemmt, who comest forth from Anu, I have not committed sin.
"...I have done no violence...
"...I have not stolen...
"...I have not slain men...
"...I have not acted deceitfully...
"...I have attacked no man...
"...I have not been wroth except with reason...
"...I have terrorized no man...
"...I have not turned a deaf ear to the words of truth...
"...I have not stirred up strife...
"...I have not acted in a violent or oppressive manner...
"...I have not acted hastily...
"...I have not acted with insufferable insolence...
"...I have not sought to make myself unduly distinguished...
"...I have not increased my wealth except through such things are my own possessions..."

Hey, Kef -- know of any way we could send Bush to *that* afterlife??? He'd really be fucked...
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:10 PM
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13. Well, the thing about those texts
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 11:16 PM by khephra
is that having a copy of them in the Afterworld would allow him to use the incantation to absolve himself from his evil actions, if he knew how to recite it in the Underworld. The Texts were magical in the sense that it was a forumla that worked for everyone, even if you did those very deeds. You just had to memorize/recite the words.

We want Bush meeting Maat with her Feather of Justice without any of those Egyptian spells if he's to face the results of his evil.
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phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:31 PM
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16. Hmmmm... Interesting...
So, is it like a 'get out of jail free' card, or does it magically turn you into a non-prick in the afterlife???

By the way, I stumbled on your name in there when I was looking for that list... Thanks for the interesting reply
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:36 PM
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17. Yep
That's why the writings were so important. There were so many "get out of jail" spells that no one could possibly know all of it by heart. Remember, everything in the tomb was taken with the Pharaoh to the afterlife. They really could take it with them, in their minds. So they made sure to have copies available for those who couldn't remember the important passages.

Yep, I'm in there. I feel the name fits me quite well. I've turned a ball of shit (my past) into a new life.

Plus I like the night, and Khephra is considered the Sun at Midnight, thus bringing the dark and light together.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 08:43 PM
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26. F*cked? No. Eaten by a voracious doglike creature, yes.
F*cking takes place in the Moslem heaven. All normal life including f*cking took place in the the Egyptian heaven.

But if your heart weighed more than a feather, burdened by the above sins, a creature sitting beside the scales ate your soul and you ended permanently.

Personally, I think it's a better incentive to righteousness than the Christian repent and all is forgiven no consequences method.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:15 PM
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14. "I do not trouble myself with great matters ...
or with things that are too hard for me." (Psalm 131)

That's gotta be in his top 10.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:28 PM
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15. Jack Van Impe said he has been called to the WH to advise on ME
I saw this late at night last week, and was gonna post it, but never got around to it. His website didn't have this up, but it is a creepy stop nonetheless.
\
He actually said he had been called to the White House to advise the bush regime on its Mid East policy, and was asking viewers to pray for him.

This is the guy that preaches every show about armageddon and all nations moving agaisnt Israel before the second coming. He endlessly quotes Bible passages from memory.

So I have no doubt this daily scripture deal is for real.

Scary!
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DarbyUSMC Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 04:35 PM
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18. Possibly the reason not much attention paid to N. Korea
in the midst of attacking Iraq; even though they seemed to many to be the more threatening country. Our government decided to handle them with diplomacy. Scripture doesn't state the antichrist will come from the far east though. The Middle East is where all the action is, so there we are - - right in the middle of the whole shootin' match. How convenient.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 07:19 PM
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20. Soothsayers...spell casters.. voodoo..what's next
:eyes:
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LiberalLibra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 07:28 PM
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21. No wonder I have such problems with religion.
:shrug:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 08:08 PM
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22. As alluded to earlier...
bush & Co, use Biblical passages to absolve themselves of their mistakes. Later, all you have to do is 'blame God' for what happened.
the ultimate cop out for those that refuse to take responsiblity for their actions.

Of course, this delusion can bring great strife, i.e., do these people think about how God might look upon their evil deeds done in His name? Those are not shoes I wish to be in.Throughout history, people have tried to devine the future, and release themselves from responsibility, history shows them to be great failures. I see no reason for bhush not to follow historical context, after all, everything he has EVER done, has been a failure.

BTW: Rule #1 for whichever god one might believe in; do NOT piss that deity off.
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Best_man23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 08:16 PM
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23. I'm Not Surprised
However, looking back, it might have been more beliveable for Dumbya to have said in the SOTU that Saddam was the AntiChrist and shown a doctored picture of Saddam with 666 on his head.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 08:26 PM
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24. AWOL is a stupid puppet being used by others. He knows nothing about
his own church the United Methodist Church, the Bible, or other religions.

The United Methodist Church says:

QUOTE
War and Peace
We believe war is incompatible with the teachings and example of Christ. We therefore reject war as a usual instrument of national foreign policy and insist that the first moral duty of all nations is to resolve by peaceful means every dispute that arises between or among them; that human values must outweigh military claims as governments determine their priorities; that the militarization of society must be challenged and stopped; that the manufacture, sale, and deployment of armaments must be reduced and controlled; and that the production, possession, or use of nuclear weapons be condemned. Consequently, we endorse general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control.

From The Book of Discipline of The United Methodist Church--2000, 165C. Copyright 2000 by The United Methodist Publishing House. Used by permission.
UNQUOTE

If he were sincere about religion, he would resign from the United Methodist Church and join some other group. To not do so is hypocritical.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 05:08 AM
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29. Hypocrites are the bane of every religionand faith...
there are few things worse than those who claim extraordinary 'rights and privledges' under a form of religion or other belief system, and then fail to give those same 'rights and privledges' to others.

I am always wary of those that claim a special relationship with God, but fail to walk the walk. The televangelists are prime examples of this failing in human nature. For Falwell to condemn a book while not having read it, is ludicrous. For Pat Robertson to call upon God to intervene in the SCOTUS, is beyond absurd. For those that preach from multi-millon dollar pulpits, as others to go hungry or unclothed just outside of their doors, shows an amazing lack of Christian insight.

No religion is bereft of hypocrites; but blatant hypocrisy is a sure road to a hell of ones own making.
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Liberator_Rev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 08:31 PM
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25. I'll bet Bush is NEVER directed to these passages
from Jesus, featured at our web pages :

http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/GODvsGreed &
http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/Challenge .


WE are the Answer to the "Christian Coalition" & "Religious Right" .
YOU are the way to get the word out, because unlike THEM,
WE are the friends of the POOR and the downtrodden,
who can't give US the kind of support the RICH give to our rivals.


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 09:10 PM
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27. That site is wonderful.
Reminds me why I don't totally hate my religion.
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