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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:01 PM
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Does anyone have any idea how the 9 Democratic contenders would answer the questions there?

If you have any suggestions, then please don't try them (i.e. don't look what result they give) in the name of honesty, because, for example, Kucinich supporters might subconsciously want to push Dean rightward and authoritarian-ward, whereas most Dean supporters as well as anti-Dean DLCers would want to push him leftward and libertarian-ward.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:05 PM
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1. I would put Dean honestly
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:06 PM by JohnKleeb
in left authoritan yet more right on economics. I am being real honest with you. Can I say this and I mean no offense to Mr. Dean and his supporters just because you opposed the war that doesnt make you a liberal. Now hes left on social issues as are most of the candiates, hes more moderate economically, and he opposed the war. So that makes him 2 or 3rd on my list.
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:11 PM
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3. Uh...
...if he's socially liberal and economically conservative then he's right libertarian, not left authoritarian.

Moreover, the quadrant is not all that matters. A +1/+1 person is closer to -1/-1 than to +8/+8. I'm mostly interested in hearing the answers that fit the candidates best on all the questions (or at least for some of the candidates).
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 04:52 PM
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14. uh, not all of us buy into libertarian religion
economically conservative means authoritarian.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:06 PM
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2. Issues2000 has all them (an every Sen., Gov., & Rep....)
www.issues2000.org
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:12 PM
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4. their scoring system is weird though
they count being pro-vouchers as liberal for example. i wouldn't go by it.
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:13 PM
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6. liberal or libertarian?
Does supporting vouchers give you social or economic points there? IMO, it should make you move toward the economically conservative side of the scale, no social impact whatsoever.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:20 PM
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8. social points
the only ideology it's really accurate for is libertarian.
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:12 PM
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5. Right, but...
...PC is far more complicated than issues2004; there are many more questions, and there are many that aren't covered on any regular lists, such as sexual rights, religion (except for the issue of separation of church and state, which is included sometimes), and patriotism.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:20 PM
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7. here's what I got for Kucinich and Dean
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:29 PM by ButterflyBlood
Kucinich:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.21

Dean:

Economic Left/Right: 0.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67

tried for Kerry now, this is what I got:

Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:21 PM
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9. What answers did you give for them?
I'm pretty sure I cand handle pages 2-6 for Dean, 2-4 for Kucinich, and 1-2 for Kerry, but I don't know about the others.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:24 PM
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10. kind of guess around
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:25 PM by ButterflyBlood
but that's the general idea.

i took it for Bush once, and got over positive 8 on both. Their graph shows him more around 8/5, which I can't see. I'm guessing being Brits they aren't aware of how fascist he is. Of course they have Sharon around 5/5.

Schroder's at around 1/1 which I found a bit of a suprise, isn't he from the liberal party in Germany?
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 04:45 PM
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12. He's from the Social-Democratic Party...
...but the only really social-democratic parties nowadays are those in Scandinavia. Schroeder for all of his social-democratism supports monetarist rather than Keynesian monetary policy.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 04:37 PM
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11. Leftist libertarian.
I didn't take it again; I've taken it several times, both U.S. and British version, and I'm always leftist libertarian. A little to the left and a little to the "south" of Ghandi.
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 04:45 PM
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13. I'm not asking about you...
...but about where teh Democratic contenders are.
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