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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 08:32 PM
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- Action to get a 9/11 family member on the Kean Commission -
KEEP THIS KICKED!!!
(Can you think of something more important in undoing the Bush junta?)

Bush bribes Max Cleland to shut up!

- Action to get a 9/11 family member on the Kean Commission -

Call/fax Tom Daschle's office and the media today!
800 numbers for Tom Daschle: (800) 839-5276 and/or (800) 648-3516 - more below!

Fri., Nov. 28, 2003

A month has passed since former Senator Max Cleland, member of the National Commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks (the Kean Commission), told the New York Times that the White House and President Bush's re-election campaign had reason to fear what the commission was uncovering in its investigation of intelligence and law enforcement "failures" before Sept. 11.

"As each day goes by," Cleland said, "we learn that this government knew a whole lot more about these terrorists before Sept. 11 than it has ever admitted." (New York Times, Oct. 26, 2003 at http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/26/national/26KEAN.html?pagewanted=print&position= )

In the meantime, the Kean Commission has accepted a deal to radically limit their access to the White House documents detailing just what high-level administration officials knew in advance of the attacks - the Presidential Daily Briefings or PDBs, including the one we know was entitled "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN U.S." and that warned of imminent hijackings (Aug. 6, 2001).

The only two delegates of the Commission who will be allowed to see *pre-edited* versions of these documents both have obvious conflicts of interest: Philip Zelikow has advised the Bush administration and wrote a book with Condoleeza Rice last year; whereas Jamie Gorelick is a former high-level adviser to President Clinton, whose PDBs will also come under scrutiny. The other commissioners will know only what Zelikow and Gorelick report back to them, based on their notes, which the White House will also be allowed to "edit."

Cleland and commission member Tim Roemer, a former congressman, both objected to the deal. "A majority of the commission has agreed to a bad deal," Cleland said in a stunning interview, reproduced below, in which he invokes the sorry history of the Warren Commission. "It is a national scandal... the Warren Commission blew it. I'm not going to be part of that. I'm not going to be part of looking at information only partially. I'm not going to be part of just coming to quick conclusions. I'm not going to be part of political pressure to do this or not do that..."

Cleland pulls no punches about the possible darker implications of the White House's secrecy fetish: "Let's chase this rabbit into the ground here. They had a plan to go to war and when 9/11 happened that's what they did; they went to war." (See below for more.)

Last week came the news that Bush suddenly appointed Cleland to the board of the Export-Import Bank, as a result of which "he will have to leave the commission investigating the Sept. 11 terror attacks." So far only The Washington Times has reported details of this story; the rest of the media have completely ignored it. (See http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20031123-091108-4750r.htm)

Just when the White House invokes a Nixonian "executive privilege" in the struggle to keep its secrets, how is it possible that Bush can simply act to remove the most outspoken member of the Kean Commission by means of a cushy appointment? What other inducements were applied to Cleland to get him to leave the Commission?

This is tantamount to a confession that Cleland is right - the White House has serious dirt to hide! And Cleland is hardly the first high-level representative to pose these questions. I shall cite just two examples: For asking, starting in March 2002, what the Bush administration may have known in advance of Sept. 11, Georgia congresswoman Cynthia McKinney was attacked from all sides and run out of Congress on a wave of millions in Republican campaign contributions.

Later that year, Senator Bob Graham headed the congressional joint investigation into Sept. 11. Despite its highly limited purview, the congressional investigation was still subjected to heavy executive censorship in its final report, including the deletion of an entire 28-page section that apparently details connections between Saudi Arabian elites and Qaeda (and possibly of the Bush family and Bin Laden family businesses). During his brief run for the presidency this year, Graham said the most important facts about 9/11 have yet to be revealed to the public.

Let us leave aside the rich and disturbing history of how the White House has otherwise obstructed the 9/11 investigations for more than two years, and return to the present:

Now, Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle is expected to nominate Cleland's replacement on the Kean Commission. Other than Cleland, every other member of the Commission has had previous close ties to the national security establishment, oil companies, airline companies, or all three. These are obvious vested interests! Given these vested interests, isn't it about time there was someone on the Commission who has an obvious vested interest not in maintaining secrecy, but in full disclosure?

Until now, the work of the Commission has been tracked by several groups including the 9/11 Family Steering Committee, a group appointed by relatives of people who died in the attacks. They have been among the most outspoken advocates of disclosure. Shouldn't a member of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee be appointed as Cleland's replacement?

Now is the time for all who support the principle of open government and disclosure, without which democracy is impossible, to make their voice heard. Forward this mail to everyone you can. Call or fax Daschle's office today to urge that he appoint a member of the Family Steering Committee as Cleland's replacement. (See below for information on contacting Daschle.) Write and fax your media contacts to cover this story.

Do it in your own words - and be insistent!

And what if this doesn't work? What if the only supposedly independent investigation into the events of Sept. 11 completes its descent into farce? Then the time will have come for citizens to take this into their own hands; if the government isn't going to let us know what it already knows about Sept. 11, then we the people have the right to sit in judgement on that government, and to establish our own citizens' truth commission.

Nicholas Levis
www.911truth.org

Appendices:

--Contact info for Daschle's offices

--Cleland interview with Eric Boehlert

--------------------------------------------

Contact info for Daschle's offices

PLEASE call ALL of Dascle's offices (4 calls, 1 to each) to make SURE he gets the message, AND also fax him and email him as well, see below.

DC - (202) 224-2321
Aberdeen: (605) 225-8823
Rapid City: (605) 348-7551
Sioux Falls: (605) 334-9596

800 numbers for Tom Daschle--
(800) 839-5276 and/or (800) 648-3516

Fax: (202) 224-6603;
or E-mail by visiting: http://daschle.senate.gov/webform.html

--------------

Selected quotes from Cleland in an interview with Eric Boehlert:

"A majority of the commission has agreed to a bad deal."

"It is a national scandal."

"I say that decision compromised the mission of the 9/11 commission, pure and simple. Far from the commissioners being able to fulfill their obligation to the Congress and the American people, and far from getting access to all the documents we need, the president of the United States is cherry-picking what information is shown to that minority of commissioners. Now this is ridiculous. That's not full and open access.

"If you trust one commissioner you should trust them all. I don't understand it. You can say, 'I'm not going to show anything to anybody, and take me to court.' At least that's consistent. But it's not consistent at all to say we're going to parse out this information and we determine how many members of the commission get to see it."

"It's all about 9/11. This is not a political witch hunt. This is the most serious independent investigation since the Warren Commission. And after watching History Channel shows on the Warren Commission last night, the Warren Commission blew it. I'm not going to be part of that. I'm not going to be part of looking at information only partially. I'm not going to be part of just coming to quick conclusions. I'm not going to be part of political pressure to do this or not do that. I'm not going to be part of that. This is serious."

"Let's chase this rabbit into the ground here. They had a plan to go to war and when 9/11 happened that's what they did; they went to war. They pulled off their task force in Afghanistan, their Predator assets, and shifted them over to the war in Iraq. They took their eye off the 9/11 ball and transferred it to the Iraq ball. And that's a very strategic question that ultimately has got to be answered. I'm focused on 9/11 and the administration is not focused on it. They don't want to share information, and they didn't agree with the commission in the first place."

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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 08:41 PM
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1. I can't understand Cleland accepting that position
Makes no sense. There is another hidden agenda behind the first hidden agenda. I don't like all this political maneuvering, I don't like it at all.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 08:54 PM
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2. Maybe there were inducements other than...
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 08:55 PM by JackRiddler
mere bribery? You know, some stick to make the carrot look good?

***

But if you prefer more exotic possibilities, we can go faaaaaar down the rabbit hole, if you like...

Do you know what Cleland was doing on the morning of 9/11?
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 09:12 PM
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3. no, i don't know
what was he doing, or provide a link and i'll check it out if it's important to understanding the relevancy of this post.
thanks
dp
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:04 AM
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6. Weeeeelll....
I warned you...

For breakfast on the morning of 9/11, Cleland received Gen. Myers, acting Chief of the JCS, appointment scheduled for Senate ratification two days later, for a discussion on the topic of his appointment and, um, the Terrorist Threat. (According to other sources.)

If you want Gen. Myers's side of the story, here it is:

I remember it was like watching a bad movie. I was on Capitol Hill. I was about ready to meet with Senator Cleland. I was meeting with him in preparation for my hearing, my confirmation hearing to be the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And I remember before we walked in there was a TV that was playing and somebody has said, "An airplane has hit one of the World Trade Center towers." They thought it was an airplane, and they thought it was a small airplane or something like that. So we walked in and we did the office call with Senator Cleland.

Sometime during that office call the second tower was hit. Nobody informed us of that. But when we came out, that was obvious. Then right at that time somebody said the Pentagon has been hit.

I immediately, somebody handed me a cell phone, and it was General Eberhart out at NORAD in Colorado Springs talking about what was happening and the actions he was going to take. We immediately, after talking to him, jumped in the car, ran back to the Pentagon.

The Chairman had left that morning to go to Europe, so he was somewhere over the Atlantic. As I got to the Pentagon I noticed a lot of people were coming out of the Pentagon. Of course they'd been told to evacuate.

http://www.dtic.mil/jcs/chairman/AFRTS_Interview.htm

Okay. He's the acting Chief of the JCS. He thinks nothing of the first crash (same story as Bush), apparently having heard nothing of all the warnings immediately prior to 9/11, apparently having forgotten the Pentagon plane-into-building exercises, and also apparently having forgotten that this was the day of the NORAD Vigilant Guardian exercise and the NRO simulation of a plane-into-building scenario. He and Cleland are so busy talking about terror that no one interrupts to tell them about the second crash, the Birth of the Age of Terror. And then, still no one bothers them for 25 minutes, there are no calls to the man who operatively heads the chain of command, and no one hands him the phone until after the Pentagon is hit at 9:37-9:43 (depending on whose timeline we accept).

I'd like to hear Cleland's version of that meeting.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 09:15 PM
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4. A major civil service job that leads to major lobbying jobs later
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 09:16 PM by papau
There are only 2 "members" - it is a very high paid full time position - and leads

to very very high paid lobbying jobs afterward.

A great job - and a chance to really do good for the world.

very hard job to turn down.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:09 AM
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7. You're kidding right?
He's going to do good for the world, first by stirring up a shitstorm on the Commission and then, by discreetly disappearing at the decisive moment to take up this deeply humanitarian position that sadly leads to high-paying lobby jobs afterwards (as if having been a Senator won't do as a resume item).

Keep feeding me.

I think I like Cleland (never seen him live or even on TV, truth to tell) and I am agnostic as to what really happened with this story, (i.e., what combo of bribery, deal-making or extortion) but I can tell you there was no coincidence in Bush just happening to appoint him to a position that forces his removal from the Commission a week or two after Cleland said, "Bush is scamming America."
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:52 PM
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5. 9-11 Can Put an END to the BFEE.
And send the Little Turd* back to Crawford.

For a long time, we DUers have known them as gangsters. If more Americans knew WTF was up regarding the Bush Organized Crime Family — from arming the Wehrmacht in the 1930s to arming Saddam in the 1980s to being in business with the bin Ladens since forever — the puppet crazy monkey would be in jail. Those interested in a handy archive of 9-11 nefarity might want to visit:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge.html

* Ron Reagan Jr said "My dad's crapped bigger ones than George Bush."

How true.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/04/14/ron_reagan/index_np.html
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:42 AM
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8. Amen and Kick
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:33 PM
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9. The Bush-Saudi Connection
C'mon, DU! Who wants to kick the Little Turd back to Crawford!?! Let's get kicking!

If you don't know WTF I'm writing about, please read and forward the following to your Congress critters:



The Bush-Saudi Connection

By Michelle Mairesse

EXCERPT...

Jihad

The Wahhabi Taliban in Afghanistan had the blessings of the Saudi royal family and of The Big Three--the bin Laden family, the al Ahmoudi family, and the Mahfouz family--the richest clans in that medieval kingdom. (A C.I.A. official testified to Congress that Khalid bin Mahfouz is bin Laden’s brother-in-law). The desert oligarchs profited from world-wide investments as well as sleazy banking schemes such as the infamous Bank of Credit and Commerce International.

Salem bin Laden, Osama’s brother, has conducted all his American affairs through James Bath, a Houston crony of the Bush family. Bath’s former business partner Bill White testified in court that Bath had been a liaison for the C.I.A. In 1979 Bath invested $50,000 in Arbusto, George W. Bush’s first business venture. Rumor had it that Bath was acting as Salem bin Laden’s representative. "In conflicting statements, Bush at first denied ever knowing Bath, then acknowledged his stake in Arbusto and that he was aware Bath represented Saudi interests."(4)

In addition to doing aviation business with Saudi sheiks, Bath was part owner of a Houston bank whose chief stockholder was Ghaith Pharaon, who represented the Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI), a criminal global bank with branches in 73 countries. BCCI proceeded to defraud depositors of $10 billion during the ‘80s, while providing a money laundry conduit for the Medellin drug cartel, Asia’s major heroin cartel, Manuel Noriega, Saddam Hussein, the C.I.A., and Islamist terrorist organizations worldwide. (5)

Big Three wheeler-dealer Khalid bin Mahfouz, one of the largest stockholders in the criminal bank, was indicted when the massive BCCI banking scandal blew apart in the early 1990s. The Saudi royal family placed him under house arrest after discovering that Mahfouz had used the royal bank to channel millions of dollars through fake charities into bin Laden’s organizations, but Mahfouz was not so much punished as inconvenienced. (6)


CONTINUED...

http://www.hermes-press.com/BushSaud.htm
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 09:18 AM
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13. Pentagon, Thatcher, Reagan/Bush and the Saudis link
it's not on The History Channel yet.
http://cryptome.org/soil/soiled-dove2.htm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:56 AM
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20. Fine traitors all in the service of thievery, slavery, war and death.
Here's a nice picture of the Little Turd from Crawford with Prince Bandar, who's wife helped fund a couple of pilot-terrorists, Big Time.



Questioning Saudi Arabia

Investigations Into Whether Saudi Money Continues to Flow to Al Qaeda


Nov. 25 (ABC News) — Amid new allegations that about a dozen prominent Saudi businessmen were financing al Qaeda through international accounts, U.S. lawmakers called for the Bush administration to investigate whether Saudi money made it into the hands of two of the Sept. 11 hijackers.

ABCNEWS has learned that at least 12 Saudi businessmen were financing al Qaeda through accounts in Cyprus, Switzerland and Malaysia, among other countries. U.S. officials told ABCNEWS that a full investigation into the allegations was under way and that there may be criminal charges filed before the end of the year.

The latest revelations followed weekend reports that money from the Saudi royal family was indirectly funneled to the 9/11 hijackers.

In a report published in Newsweek, the magazine alleged that money from an account in the name of Princess Haifa al-Faisal, wife of the Saudi ambassador to Washington, reached the hijackers.

CONTINUED...

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/DailyNews/saudi_021125.html
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:37 PM
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10. Thanks! Done and Kick
This is major important. Please keep kicking! If BFEE can be connected to 9/11, they are toast.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 08:25 AM
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11. kick

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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 08:43 AM
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12. kick and kick again !
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 09:59 AM
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14. very important
re-kick
:kick:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:56 PM
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15. HERE COMES MONDAY...
CALL DASCHLE TODAY!!!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:56 PM
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16. HERE COMES MONDAY...
CALL DASCHLE TODAY!!!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:11 PM
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17. Well, did you call Daschle's office yet?
There's plenty of time!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 08:02 PM
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18. kick
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 08:03 PM
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19. Yes
:kick:
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:27 AM
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21. kick
it
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:15 AM
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22. Kick!
I don't see it happening though, the fix IS in.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:23 AM
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23. This commission is useless and they should start over...
- There is no way this particular commission can get at the truth...considering all the restraints the WH has put on it from the very beginning.

- The 9-11 commission was put together to legitimize the WH obstruction and coverup. A new commission needs to be put together without ANY government officials.

- The coverup will continue as long as Bushie Republicans and apologists are calling the shots.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 09:06 AM
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24. Kerry Administration would be the best way to put BFEE behind bars.
Sen. Kerry has addressed this very issue. Kerry said he would appoint an Attorney General as different from John Ashcroft as night from day. That means we'd have someone interested in busting corruption at all levels — starting with the feds.

Sen. Kerry has the experience to lead this type of investigation. He led the investigations of BCCI and Iran-Contra drug running. MANY of the same players then are involved in 9-11 cover-up today, from Poppy Bush to Bush Jr. to the bin Laden clan and Adnan Kashoggi. The corrupt horde would be running for their Swiss bank accounts — Scooter Libby would beg Rev. Moon for sanctuary and Richard Perle would emigrate to Israel to stay out of the federal penitentiary.

You want to see the BFEE frog-marched out of the White House for real? Vote for John Kerry. His team includes Amb. Joseph Wilson, who investigated the Uranium from Niger claim and who's CIA wife was exposed by the Bush White House to silence critics. His team also includes Rand Baer, a White House counter-terror expert who quit because the Bush White House puts politics ahead of the country's safety. These people would ask WTF Bush Jr and crew knew and when they knew it.

If there's a way, I volunteer to put the cuffs on Cheney. To show you I believe in the US Constitution, I'd even read him his rights.

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 09:31 AM
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25. Take things one stage at a time...
I agree with you, however this must first be shown. The Commission's credibility with the families just has or is about to reach zero, the Cleland replacement being the final step. If we can get a Kristen Breitweiser in there, it's an important step forward. If Daschle appoints just another coverupper despite family protests, then it will be time (and the general credibility will be there) to denounce the Commission as a coverup and to establish a citizens' truth commission or tribunal. The families will back this, and ultimately we will crack the media. Meanwhile, one step at a time!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 08:17 PM
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26. kick
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