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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:17 PM
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Diebold Statement and Balt Sun election folk quotes
Diebod statement below

http://www.sunspot.net/news/yahoo/bal-te.md.vote25jul25,0,3898855.story?coll=bal-newsaol-headlines

From “Hopkins researchers say Md.'s electronic terminals are vulnerable to hackers” By Michael Stroh we learn that Diebold says: “In a carefully worded statement, Diebold defended the system and said its machines were certified by federal, state and local officials. It said the code the Hopkins researchers tested appears to be outdated and criticized the researchers for not contacting them during the analysis. But the company said it would "reserve judgment on the researchers' fundamental conclusions."And that“Election supervisors in states with Diebold machines said they are happy with the equipment.” examples. – (1) Md’s state administrator of elections said that "With any computer software, you always have some risk,…(but)"There's so many checks and balances in this process." And she questioned whether the Hopkins scientists were testing the software code that Maryland's machines use, (2), Georgia "They don't know what version of software it was and are testing it out of context - you have to test the software and hardware together," said Barnes, and (3), California - Diebold machines …performed well and have mechanisms to thwart certain types of fraud: "When the voter votes, it is essentially stores the image of every individual ballot as well as keeps a running total of what the votes are. If at any time those numbers get out of sync with the images, it will stop and won't take any more votes."

So Diebold says "We believe the software code they evaluated, while sharing similarities to the current code, is outdated and never was used in an actual election.” But no comments by Diebold on the ease of smart card fraud, or on ease of poll worker tampering to get more GOP votes recorded by recording Dem votes as GOP votes. Only, Diebold says, (research) "overlooked the total system of software, hardware, services and poll worker training" the company provides.

The Hopkins report is available online in Adobe Acrobat format at http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf.

http://www.diebold.com/statement.htm Diebold, Incorporated 7/25 press release statement regarding the voting system report issued by Johns Hopkins University....NORTH CANTON, Ohio -- Johns Hopkins University issued a report on electronic voting systems on July 23. We respectfully disagree with the researchers’ fundamental conclusions. It is unfortunate that the Johns Hopkins researchers did not involve us or the election community in their analysis, including the Federal Election Commission, which sets standards that all election processes must follow; the federal certification independent testing authorities, which tests and impose the standards; Secretaries of State and/or State Boards of Elections, which control the voting process within their states and the county election authorities. These entities would have added important real-world experience to their analysis. In addition, the study did not use our current software code. The code was also analyzed without knowledge of the voting machine hardware in which it is used in actual elections, which caused them to draw many incorrect inferences.
By their own admission in Section 1.3 of the study, the researchers “have not independently verified the current or past use of the code by Diebold or that the code (we) analyzed is actually Diebold code.” It is also important to note that the clinical research focused almost solely on software code, and overlooked the total system of software, hardware, services and election processes that have made Diebold electronic voting systems so effective in real-world implementations. For example, the study cites Microsoft Windows communications weaknesses which have been widely publicized over the past several years. These weaknesses only apply if the voting terminals are connected to the Internet or some other public network. This is NEVER the case. As the terminals are not connected to such a network, there are no opportunities to exploit these weaknesses even if they exist. In addition, many of the published weaknesses have to do with Internet browsers, e-mail programs and other Internet related applications. No Diebold elections terminals use any of these applications.

Our elections systems products and services undergo a series of certification processes, which are conducted by federal, state and local officials, including logic and accuracy testing, and represent a sequence of security layers in place within the elections process for actual elections. We welcome the chance to work directly with Johns Hopkins, its research team and other objective electronic voting experts to continue to ensure the integrity of the voting process.

America’s elections history has been one of continuous improvement, and Diebold has been at the forefront of creating standardized systems that ensure the highest degree of accuracy and integrity for voters, elected officials and a wide variety of electoral jurisdictions. Our track record is exemplary as illustrated by the recent streamlined elections in Georgia, California and Maryland, among other locations. We currently have more than 50,000 electronic voting units installed throughout the United States.


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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:47 PM
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1. Good articles. Was just getting ready to post this but checked to
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 12:48 PM by SharonAnn
see if anyone already had. Glad I did that.

Thought it was interesting that Diebold said:
"In a carefully worded statement, Diebold defended the system and said its machines were certified by federal, state and local officials. It said the code the Hopkins researchers tested appears to be outdated and criticized the researchers for not contacting them during the analysis. But the company said it would "reserve judgment on the researchers' fundamental conclusions."

They "Criticized the researchers for not contacting them during the analysis"? As I recall, Bev Harris said she tried repeatedly to contact them and they didn't respond with any specific information. Don't you suppose the same thing happened to the Johns Hopkins reasearchers?

Also, see:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cmp/20030725/tc_cmp/12803024

Get on this Yahoo! article and rate it a "5" if you think it should be seen by others who check Yahoo!.
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:54 PM
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2. No supposition about it....
Diebold and the cast of characters refuse to speak to any of us - including the researchers.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:03 PM
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3. This will build - now we have "I did not make the wrong decision"
from the various state folk that have bought these machines.

But that will change.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:52 PM
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4. What a crock
:kick:

Eloriel
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:10 PM
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5. ??????
n/t
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