Bush miscalculated in displaying dead bodies says Eric Margolis on CBC

[glarius]

Eric Margolis was just on CBC Newsworld saying Bush has miscalculated in showing Hussein dead bodies...Mr. Margolis is an American living in Toronto who writes a weekly column for the Toronto Sun...He is an expert in mid-east affairs and has many contacts in the area...He has been against the war from the beginning and has written many columns condemning it...He just said that showing the dead bodies will bring out resentment in many Iraqis...even the ones who hated the Hussein brothers....Margolis says the displaying of the dead bodies will whip up more bloody resistance and not to expect things to calm down now that the brothers are dead. He said EVEN THOUGH THEY WANT THESE MEN DEAD, THEY DO NOT WANT IT DONE BY FOREIGNERS!!!....Here's his column from last Sunday where he says Bush should be impeached!

http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/margolis_jul20.html

[soleft]

1. Question for WWII historians

Who was it that actually killed and strung up Mussolini, was there any negative reaction in Italy? How much US involvement was there? And was Hitler's body ever displayed? His body was discovered in a bunker by US, right? Seems odd I've never seen any documenation re: his body.

[Spazito]

3. Re your questions...

The Italians themselves strung up Mussolini and his mistress.

No, Hitler's body was never found, it was burned completely, I believe there were some bones there, but not sure about that.

[Bunny]

4. I think the Russians found Hitler's remains,

not the US. But I could be wrong.

[Uzybone]

12. your correct

the Russians reached Hitlers bunker first and found the remains of Hitler, Braun and the Goebbells (in think it was Goebbells) family. All they found of Hitler (offically) as mostly ash and bone.

[Clete]

18. Here's a quote from a foot note in

"The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William L. Schirrer, a foreign correspondent in Germany before and after WWII.

"The bones were never found,(Hitler's and his new wife) and this gave rise to rumors after the war that Hitler had survived. But separate interrogation of several eyewitnesses by British and American intelligence officers leaves no doubt about the matter. Kempka (Hitler's chauffer, who collected the gasoline to burn them and witnessed who the cremation.)has given a plausible explanation as to why the charred bones were never found. 'The traces were wiped out,' he told his interrogators, 'by the uninterrupted Russian artillery fire.'"

Further on in the chapter,Goebbels had his six children euthanized by a doctor first then...

"There at their request(Dr. and Frau Goebbels), an S. S. orderly dispatched them with two shots in the back of the head. Four cans of gasoline were poured over the bodies and set on fire, but the cremation was not well done. The survivors in the bunker were anxious to join the mass escape which was just getting under way and there was no time to waste on burning those already dead. The Russians found the charred bodies of the Propaganda Minister and his wife the next day and immediately identified them."

[PurityOfEssence]

17. The Soviets found bones and parts of Hitler's skull

The portion of his skull I've seen in a documentary has a bullet hole in it. They also tracked down his dental records at the time and confirmed them.

[Clete]

9. I have been reading about this recently so

to answer your questions. Italian Partisans (commies) killed Mussolini and his mistress. After he and Carla Petacci (the mistress) were assassinated, they were strung up on the lamp posts for all to see. Then they were cut down and lay in the gutter for a day while Italians reviled and spit on them. The U. S. had not reached them yet. Hitler and Eva Braun's bodies were cremated and then fell to allied bombs so that barely any trace was left of them. There have been claims over the years of remains that could have been Hitler's but I don't think he was ever identified for sure.

[diamond14]

11. (link) to photo of US soldiers watching mutilation of mussolini

and his cabal...there's at least 8 American helmets in this photo, with the upside-down hanging of the beaten bodies...complicity?

and other links show it was American Soldiers who took these photos....

(caution: graphic pictures)

http://www.gvn.net/~lowe/mussolini/d3.htm

[Clete]

13. They could be Americans or British. I am not up on my helmets.

Eisenhower and Montgomery had been invading Italy coming from different directions. The hanging of the bodies was in Milan after they had been captured and executed trying to escape into Switzerland from Lake Como in Northern Italy. The bodies were taken to Milan to be reviled. The poster asked if Americans were involved in the assassination and I said no because they hadn't reached that area where they were killed yet.

[quilp]

2. Military should have called Iraqi police to deal with Hussein brothers.

That would have solved the problem. If the war is "over" then Saddam Hussein should be a matter for Iraqi civillian authorities. Bush people have no clue.

[edzontar]

5. The Mussolini display backfired in Italy...

And to this day is seen as a major mistake that hurt some elements in the Resistance.

As to parallels--the most obvious one is CHE in 1968.

And he went on to become a revolutionary martyr and hero to this day.

[Sticky]

7. and one more thing, glarius

Eric Margolis said the word, "MURDER". Finally, someone not afraid to call it what it was.

It was a great interview as always. I emailed Eric after his last column and he emailed me back!

[Spazito]

8. Same here!

I e-mailed him too after that article and got a response! Eric Margolis is always dead on in his analysis!

[glarius]

10. I emailed him several months ago & he answered also

He's a conservative but he is fair-minded and completely against Bush and his cabal.

[joanski01]

6. Wow! What a great article!

Thanks for posting it. He really lets the monkeyboy have it. And I believe that every word he says is true.

[greekspeak]

14. I Think BushCo has "misunderestimated" these folks at CBS

Finally someone is challenging the Pretender to the Oval Office. I hope he goes down in 2004 just as hated as the people he and his cronies have convinced us to hate for no good reason.

[glarius]

15. Margolis was on CBC not CBS....But CNN has had him on occasionally

He isn't as able to be as free in his comments on CNN though...He knows how far he can go before they stop calling on him for comments...

edit: the CBC is a Canadian station

[whoYaCallinAlib]

16. I disagree.

Arabs don't have a problem with dead bodies. When they behead or stone people to death, they parade the corpes around for days.