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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:23 AM
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Diebold story: List of media outlets covering this:
Add to this as you see 'em:

1. New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/24/technology/24VOTE.html?ex=1059710400&en=d989a69c518293a6&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

2. Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42928-2003Jul24.html?nav=hptoc_m

3. MSNBC
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/24/technology/24VOTE.html?ex=1059710400&en=d989a69c518293a6&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

4. CNN

5. Slashdot
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/07/24/153258.shtml?tid=103&tid=126&tid=128&tid=99

6. The Age (Australia)
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/25/1059084190013.html

7. Atlanta Journal Constitution (new)
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/0703/25voting.html

8. Voting System Fails Inspection
http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5054088.html

9. Reuters
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=3155955

10. Information Week
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=12803024

11. AP
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/6376399.htm
San Jose Mercury News
Baltimore Sun
Washington Times
Rockdale Citizen (GA)
Athens Banner (GA)
Porterville (CA)
Access North Georgia
Times Picayune (LA)

12. Cryptonomicon
http://www.cryptonomicon.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=413

13. WMAR TV (Baltimore)
http://www.insidebaltimore.com/news/local/flawed-voting-software0724.shtml

14. BusinessWeek.com
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/cnet/stories/5054088.htm

15. Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home_asia/newswire/2003/07/24/rtr1037484.html

16. Baltimore Sun
http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/bal-votingflaws0724,0,795658.story?coll=bal-home-headlines
(Georgia voters, weigh in: in this article, Michael Barnes (Div of Elections, S.O.S. Office) claims he has not had a single complaint about the machines

17. Akron Beacon Journal
http://www.ohio.com/bj

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:43 AM
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1. Great List
I hope I'll have one to add soon ..
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:41 AM
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24. ABJ (Diebold home paper) Link
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:34 AM
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2. Minneapolis Strib
Computer Voting Systems Vulnerable
By BRIAN WITTE, Associated Press Writer

Published July 24, 2003 0724AP-ELECTRONIC-VO


BALTIMORE (AP) - An electronic voting system used in some states as an alternative to the troublesome punch-card ballots is highly vulnerable to fraud, computer security experts warned in a study released Thursday
http://www.startribune.com/stories/709/4006209.html
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 02:32 AM
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55. St Paul Pioneer Press July 25 Technology Blurb
Experts warn of e-voting fraud threat
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/6378671.htm
An electronic voting system used in some states as an alternative to the troublesome punch-card ballots is highly vulnerable to fraud, computer security experts warned in a study released Thursday. The study found "significant security flaws" with the system designed by Diebold Election Systems. The system was vulnerable to unscrupulous voters as well as "insiders such as poll workers, software developers and even janitors," who could cast multiple votes without a trace, the study said. The system allows ballots to be cast on a 15-inch touchscreen. The study was the first review of the software by independent researchers.

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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 02:41 AM
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56. Strib again
Company Defends Electronic Voting System
By BRIAN WITTE, Associated Press Writer

Published July 25, 2003 0725AP-ELECTRONIC-VO
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

BALTIMORE (AP) - The manufacturer of an electronic voting system criticized in a new study as being vulnerable to fraud defended its product Friday, saying the researchers reached faulty conclusions because they had several technical misunderstandings

http://www.startribune.com/stories/670/4008675.html
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:43 AM
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3. Houston Chronicle running AP story.
n/t
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JawJaw Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 04:22 AM
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4. Hah

Love that quote from the Slashdot link:

if(bush)
bush++;
else
bush++;


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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 04:44 AM
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5. Thought this would be more precise:
if(bush)
*bush;
else
bush++;
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 06:16 AM
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6. I just watched the Palast vid...
...from the BBC, Bush Family Fortunes...

Just hacked me off all over again. And he covers all bases, war profiteering, corporate wet dream...haha, election theft, AWOL...it is SO heartening to finally see this information seeing light of day. Perhaps now we can face the stark reality of the situation. What would a man willing to buy the Presidency be willing to do to keep and secure power?
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 07:42 AM
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14. "trust the machines"
Time to resurrect three more Bush words from Florida 2000? The people handcount really scared them.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 06:23 AM
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7. Front page of Googlenews, but down in Sci/Tech, 52 sources at 7:21 am
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 06:26 AM by DUreader
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:11 AM
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15. WTF!!! GOOGLE GOING BACKWARDS DOWN TO 49 STORIES at 9:10 am
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:15 AM
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16. GOOGLE IS PISSING ME OFF 72 Stories if you click omitted results
I have never seen Google change the # of results before like that

usually the # of returned results is the same but the # displayed

will be different and you click to display all of them
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:13 AM
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21. Google news count at 78 just now.
About 11:10.
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chadm Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:27 PM
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37. Thanks for showing us how its done, Bev
It's been a real education for a lot of us.
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kcordell Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 06:35 AM
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8. The Gainesville Times
Here's our local paper's take on yesterdays report.

""The system in Georgia is so secure within the state and counties that an outside person would have a hard time tampering with it," she said. "There's nothing perfect in this life, but this is very secure." Ann Phillips


http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20030725/localnews/645352.html

Notice that there is no mention of what an 'inside person' might do.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 06:57 AM
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9. Just sent a letter to
The Arizona Republic...

http://www.arizonarepublic.com

just in case Bev or anyone wants to send something else...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 06:58 AM
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10. Happy Belated Birthday Bev
I got on C-Span this morning, was able to mention you by name and the book and the Times article and Diebold. I asked him to read the story and said it was the crime of the century.
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 01:13 AM
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54. Way to go! I've never had the nerve to call in to anything
(Really). I love doing radio but am shy about calling in. Only time I've ever done it was when Palast was on, and they never took my call.

Bev
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 07:26 AM
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11. Here's a new one
A good one, and it contains links to other stories.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10676
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 07:39 AM
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12. Thanks. You just did my research for the day.
I'm going to print each of these out and hand the bundle to Ed Rendell tonight, along with urging him to put the kibosh on PA purchases of these systems until we get to the bottom of this.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 07:40 AM
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13. the one qualifier
"ludicrous" when asked to comment on the intention behind the code. Well, when the scientist is attacked about judgments running up against the people structure of the problem are they going to work it both ways?
Probably.

Of course we are starting out from suppositions impossible to shove aside considering the scale of the possible threat. Weapons of Mass Fraud after all. Why have such a lousy program with multiple multiple holes? Complexity to hide the shortcomings MIGHT be a sales ploy, but you would want to secretly IMPROVE things which does not seem to be the case. On the other hand, suppose(this is not rigorous scientiific method, just whimsy) that you wanted fraud and wanted several options should one become obsolete or "corrected" you would multiply the forest
and keep rolling the dice. "Diebold" is proving yet another one of those ironic Dickensian names that abound in the anglo cricles of the Right wing corporate world. CEO "Daft" of Coca-Cola is another.

If discovered with high crimes charges looming one could fall back on the simple venality of the lousy code which is what Rubin sees. When this all started they must have known that improvements and discoveries might ruin the cloak of invisibility and the choice even then was to "diversify" every aspect, hide every aspect, and simply create so many possibilities that intent is lost in the mind boggling tangle and dedicated budgets, "reforms" and widespread collaboration.

Which sounds familiar in dealing with the modern GOP. These "living" files are even more complex than the machine program, especially when judging intent. I hope we can gather the dots and get the lines drawn there too, but time is mainly running out on junking these machines and stopping the proliferation of Diebold style unreliable technology
in other machines and other sectors(internet voting). Only a full blown and thorough legal investigation will really tear down the human fraud machine which we suspect for good reason is behind the Diebold scandal. For that we need fairly elected honest people.

Once again we have the luxury of "guessing" right when nearly every apple picked from the Tree of Knowledge is fruit spoiled by the GOP. It is too easy to be right. It is much more difficult to muster proof and resistance. But it is very very possible despite the atmosphere of despair that overshadows the triumphant forest. Lies cannot be allowed to stand.

Diebold has not begin to fight back yet. Caught between quarters I think they were trying to put on the glowing success and future progress mask. They may well be incapable of a practical strategy at this point in defense of the indefensible.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:30 AM
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17. Thank you Bev, who knew your efforts would pay off?
So many (myself included) felt there was no point in fighting, the opposition seemed so powerful compared to us. But you did it!

Now how do we go about showing the fraud that has already occurred using these machines?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:47 AM
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18. Rate this storyon Yahoo.


Defects reported in voting machines
1 hour, 9 minutes ago Add Local - Baltimore Sun to My Yahoo!


By Michael Stroh

"The electronic voting system selected by Maryland and several other states may harbor serious software flaws that could allow voters or poll workers to tinker with election results, a team of Johns Hopkins University computer security experts has reported. "



"The touch-screen voting machines made by Ohio-based Diebold Election Systems are vulnerable to subversions ranging from multiple voting to vote switching, the Hopkins study concluded. It said some hacks could be accomplished with little expertise, using inexpensive, widely available equipment"
(snip)



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?
tmpl=story&u=/trib/20030725/lo_spot/defectsreportedinvotingmachines
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:04 AM
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20. Keep up the ratings. It's not showing up yet but AP story is #3.
GO BEV and Company!!!!
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:21 AM
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22. Better link
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:26 AM
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19. kick/nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:22 AM
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23. Google news count at 106 now.
11:22 EST
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:41 AM
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25. Georgia Voter here
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 10:50 AM by Eloriel
I can't say Michael Barnes received any complaints. I don't know. But we all know he received piles of questions. And gave lots of lies and stonewalling. Ohhh, the stonewalling.

I do hope you'll someday write the story of the circles some of us ran around in trying to get something -- anything! -- done in GA.

Speaking of writing -- when's the book coming out?

Edit -- wait a minute. There were some complaints, weren't there? At least one about pushing for one candidate repeatedly and the other candidate showing as the choice?

Edit again, from the Sunspot article:

Election officials in other states where the Diebold machines are used endorsed that view. "They don't know what version of software it was and are testing it out of context -- you have to test the software and hardware together," said Barnes of Georgia.

:wtf: The hardware has built in safeguards that eliminate the security vulnerabilities in the software somehow? That doesn't even pass the COMMON sense test, let alone the programming reality test, does it?

Brad Clark, registrar of voters for Alameda County, Calif., said his 4,000 Diebold machines, the same as Maryland's, have also performed well and have mechanisms to thwart certain types of fraud: "When the voter votes, it is essentially stores the image of every individual ballot as well as keeps a running total of what the votes are. If at any time those numbers get out of sync with the images, it will stop and won't take any more votes."


How on earth could "those numbers get out of sync" at all, if there weren't software problems? And there shouldn't BE software problems if the code was examined line-by-line so it could be properly certified. The one thing we ALL know about computers is that if the software is written properly, it ALWAYS does what it should do (e.g., add correctly). Totally reliable, assuming no outside interference, of course.

Eloriel
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:52 PM
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50. Is Michael Barnes related to Roy Barnes?
...
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:37 AM
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52. Not that I know of n/t
.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:53 AM
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26. Check out Yahoo Top Stories!!! There are THREE on the Computer Voting!
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:01 AM
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27. Please let just one
reporter somewhere ask if the reason no election official has a complaint about Diebold is that it provided the desired result by not accurately counting the votes. PLEASE!
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:05 AM
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28. Cringely article
This post by Logansquare was in the Editorials thread:

=====
From "I, Cringley," the tech commentator on PBS:

"Hopefully, the story is false... If it is true, then it may well be the case that massive voter fraud has put many of the wrong candidates in office, meaning we aren't a nation of laws at all. Even more disturbing is the fact that the mainstream press doesn't appear to be interested, which is scary. You be the judge." <snip>

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030717.html
=====
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:10 AM
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29. BFEE is Working Like Hell
To get this ignored, anyone else thing so?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:01 PM
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30. It's on the CNN site under "Technology News"
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:48 PM
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32. It's #3 on MSNBC's top 10
http://www.msnbc.com/news/943558.asp?0si=-#BODY

(scroll to the bottom to vote for the story)

NOTHING on foxnews.com (of course) or abcnews.com or cbsnews.com.

Anyone heard anything on TV or radio?
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:46 PM
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31. Huh?
David Heller, the project manager for Maryland's voting system implementation:

"Heller explained that the aspects of the system not analyzed by the researchers do make a difference. On election day for example, human election workers would count the number of votes cast at each terminal and retain receipts that would tie people to a specific machine (but not to their actual vote). If the voting machine's tally doesn't match the operator's count, then the votes on that machine would be thrown out and those voters allowed to recast their ballots. "

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/cnet/stories/5054088.htm
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:59 PM
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33. Germany Running the story too!!!!!!
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,258563,00.html

Spiegel Online is the news outlet.

I don't read German ......but it seems to be THE story.....they have a link to the Johns Hopkins report.

This word looks OMINIOUS (for Diebold): Sicherheitslücken LOL

I don't know what that word means.....but I think it fits as a description for the whole Bush WH nightmare! Pronounced (by me) as Sicker-hites-Schlooken! I will do a mantra on my next protest march!

Sicker-hites-Schlooken!
Sicker-hites-Schlooken!
Sicker-hites-Schlooken!
Sicker-hites-Schlooken!

Hey, it sure beats Sig Heil!
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. When is the mainstream press going to connect this to the documented
electronic vote counting anomalies?
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:20 PM
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36. Sicherheitslücken
My German is real real rusty, but the German dictionary would say it means:

Security gaps

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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:14 PM
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40. LOL, okay, I will change my mantra:
No more sicker-hites-schlookens!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:11 PM
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35. Bev here's a toast to ya girl, way to kick ASS!
:toast:

:kick:

God love ya, RR from FloriDUH!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:06 PM
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38. The Globe and Mail has it AND mentions Bev and her book!!
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:12 PM
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39. Globe Technology running the story.......
Stolen from madfloridan's wonderful post:

http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030725.gtjackjuly25/BNStory/Technology/

SNIP..."The source code for the software used in one voting machine was discovered on the Internet, on an unprotected FTP site belonging to Ohio-based Diebold Election Systems Inc. The software, when compiled and run in tests, showed that it appears to be the code used in the company's AccuVote-TS touch-screen terminals.

Bev Harris, a journalist and social activist, promptly detailed its faults in a book called Black Box Voting.

And those faults are horrifying.

A report by computer scientists at Johns Hopkins University and Rice University found that the voting system is "far below even the most minimal security standards."

The system relies on identity "smartcards." They're like credit cards, but savvy voters, the study found, can easily program their own, and these "homebrew" cards leave no trace...."
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:23 PM
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41. on the CNN homepage now.... with a PICTURE
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/07/25/evoting.flaw.ap/index.html


Johns Hopkins University Professor Avi Rubin, right, and graduate student Yoshi Kohno conducted the study about electronic voting systems.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 04:45 PM
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42. BEV, THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!
Keep the heat on! This thing has to grow some more legs!!

DUers need to buy a bunch of copies of your book and send dozens to each rep & senator....REALLY turn up the heat!!


:kick:
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elfling Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 05:41 PM
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43. email everyone
I sent a note of concern to my county election officials.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 06:50 PM
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44. Just talked with Ed Rendell and gave him copies of the NYT piece
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 06:50 PM by Merlin
He was unaware of the hearings around the state (PA) last week regarding the state's electronic voting plans.

Told him about DU and that many of us believe Diebold machines were responsible for the bizzare outcome in GA. He was quite taken by that notion, since it seemed to have puzzled him, too.

Said there is no way PA will do anything in the near future with state funds, even if they've been authorized, because he won't release them.

Said he'd read both articles (also gave him the WaPo story) on the trip back to Harrisburg.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:13 PM
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45. BBC
in the technology section.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:16 PM
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46. BEV
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 08:25 PM by newsguyatl
this is getting exciting... we need to be in contact early next week...

on edit: when's your book coming out? or is it already?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:28 PM
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47. Showed up in our local NM paper today...
... just a small back-pages rewrite of what the Boston Globe picked up from the AP wire. Edited to mostly contain Diebold's refutations. This is not surprising, given that it's a very conservative paper in a very conservative area.

Cheers.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:05 PM
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48. GOOGLE NEWS UP TO 156 STORIES- Still in Sci/Tech
Voting Machine Study Divides Md. Officials, Experts
Washington Post - 40 minutes ago
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:15 PM
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49. Ya beat me to the punch, 'reader!
Congratulations! Keep up the good work! You all, too, Bev and Crew!

Voting Machine Study Divides Md. Officials, Experts

By Brigid Schulte
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, July 26, 2003; Page B01

For some in Maryland, the report yesterday by Johns Hopkins University computer security experts that electronic voting machines could easily be hacked into set off alarm bells. But for others, including the state officials who recently signed a $55.6 million agreement to put the units in every voting precinct by March, the report is one more example of "technological hysteria."

"The study should be setting off alarm bells," said Del. William A. Bronrott (D-Montgomery). "We need to be 100 percent sure that there is no chance that our machines can be tampered with."

"Even if was completely impossible that would ever happen, the reality that it could happen should be enough to concern us," said Cheryl C. Kagan, a former delegate who opposed using electronic voting machines. "If the system can't be used with confidence, it shouldn't be used at all."

On Thursday, researchers with Johns Hopkins' Information Security Institute released their analysis of a Diebold Election Systems Inc. software code that they obtained in a fluke from an Internet site. They concluded that the system was so flawed that voters could vote multiple times, that ATM-like "Smart Cards" such as those used in Maryland could easily be copied and that an insider could program the machine to register votes incorrectly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48092-2003Jul25.html


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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:53 PM
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51. Kaboommmm!!!
......It's Alive!!!......Just a side note!!!......Today(Fri) while listening to my local RW hack station our local Rush wannabe mentioned D.U....He was attempting to portray D.U. much like N.Boortz did recently by reading a few posts that expressed sympathy for the Hussein brothers as well as contempt for Bush, etc...you know the spill!!!!!Badddddd Liberal!!!!!...in any case little did he know that I was arranging my thoughts to call in prior to hearing his statement....After hearing the D.U. reference little did he know that he was about to get kicked into the creek.......It was quite beautiful if I must say so myself!!!..LOL..I could just sense the listening audiences jaws dropping after referencing the positive work accomplished regarding the electronic voting and its elevation to the international and finally the national stage.....in any case best wishes and I know everyone here can fully appreciate witnessing a RW hack fall on his butt, that is to say exposed in his effort to propogandize his fellow countrymen........
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:43 AM
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53. It also hit Atlanta local NBC news
I wasn't watching for the early news, which my husband said covered it at slightly more length than the later early evening (7pm) news. Don't know if any of the other stations picked it up or not. Unfortunately, the coverage I saw outlined the problem very briefly, then showed the jerk Michael Barnes of the SoS's office with his banal refutation, and I can't even remember which one he used.

But I was glad to see the coverage.

Onward and upward. More, more!

Thrilled it's getting the play, even internationally. Hooray!

Eloriel
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 05:23 AM
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57. Shall we take this Media Monitoring task to a fresh thread
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 08:56 AM
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58. GOOGLENEWS Count 162- Still in Sci/TEch
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 04:43 PM
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59. Kick
This is REALLY gratifying to see Bevs hard work paying dividends !
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