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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:23 PM
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Who is the most Progressive candidate?
I'd have to say that the most progressive candidate is Dennis Kuchinich, and that is why I support him.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:24 PM
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1. same here
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:26 PM
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2. Without a doubt.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:32 PM
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3. I hope that come crunchtime, Al Sharpton will endorse him
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:34 PM
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4. I really don't know yet. I will need to hear more from all of them...
...including the ones who have not announced that are running yet before I can make that decision.

Don

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:35 PM
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5. Kucinich
that's why he'll never win the Dem primary
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:40 PM
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7. I could agree fifty years ago about the name thing but not now.
Right now it really boils down to the candidate that has stroked the Democratic elite. Yes, we have an elite. I should have been more specific in my post. I favor Dean because he has a chance of winning the nomination. I like Dennis because of principles. I hope he gets to the starting gate. With some exceptions we have a really good group of candidates running this time. Other than Holy Joe, I don't have too many objections, and even Joe may end up being O.K. because as a true politician he will keep his nose to the wind.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:39 PM
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6. I think it is Kucinich
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:52 PM
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8. It's not even close . . . Kucinich is most progressive by a MOONSHOT!!
How can there be any debate.
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:53 PM
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9. I'm not sure
According to the conventional definition of progreesive, it's either Kucinich or Moseley-Braun. However, if you define progressive in terms of, well, progress, then Dean comes into the game because of his support of reforming NAFTA for fair trade whereas Kucinich supports gutting it.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 07:55 AM
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22. Your definition "gutting it" means a return to negotiations!!
You might remember that word from LONG AGO.

He propses to make us negotiate mutually beneficial trade treaties with individual countries, so that the other country doesn't just get environmental devastation and semi-slave labor while the U. S. loses jobs.

A VERY PRACTICAL PROGRAM, IMHO. And very progressive in the "old" sense, in which the U. S. really cares about the welfare of the U. S. and other countries, and doesn't let multi-nationals be international bullies.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:54 PM
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10. Kucinich.
No question.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 11:02 PM
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11. Kucinich, Sharpton, Mosley-Braun
are the most progressive of the 9.

Sadly that is a reason they won't get the nomination and are considered the long shots of the race. They still bring a lot to this party and I'd take them anyday for pres (especially over Bush or Liberman haha).
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L.A.dweller Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 11:27 PM
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12. Kuchinich
Dennis Kuchinich wants to get rid of the World Trade Organization and i am all for that.
There are People in thirld world countries that work for less than minimum wage and in hazardous health conditions in order to produce GAP clothing and other material items.
It is too idealistic to think that the WTO will go but Kuchinich gives just a glimpse of hope.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 07:09 AM
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20. Hi L.A.dweller!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 11:35 PM
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13. Kucinich: most Progressive AND the best candidate by far
by far
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 11:38 PM
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14. NO question..
Kucinich...He will stand up for the base...no compromises.
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theriverburns Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 11:42 PM
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15. Kucinich but...
Who is the least progressive?
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:02 AM
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16. Leiberman
Bush lite!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:08 AM
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17. Kucinich without a doubt. All others are FAR behind him. n/t
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:28 AM
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18. Dennis Kucinich, of course. He's the only one who commits to

repealing the Patriot Act, getting the US out of WTO and NAFTA, rolling the retirement age for full Social Security benefits back down to 65, fully funding Social Security and Medicare, health insurance for every American, etc.

What Kucinich proposes to do for the American people will get him elected if we can get the word out to voters -- and if the unreliability of Diebold and other voting machines causes states to take the steps necessary to ensure honest elections with all votes counted.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:56 AM
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19. If Kucinich broke from the Dems he'd have to form a third PROGRESSIVE
party. He is that much more progressive than the other Dem candidates. And yet he also personifies the core traditional Democratic platform. Says alot about where the Dem Party stands now.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 07:12 AM
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21. yes it is DK
however, and I know this drives his supporters crazy, I don't think he can win. I am glad he is in the race in any case.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:20 AM
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23. I Say This With All Due Deference And Respect
What is the scenario in which Dennis Kucinich captures the Democratic nomination much less the presidency?

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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:22 AM
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24. define progressive..
You can't ask that question without defining what you view as progressive.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:50 AM
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25. Labels Have Lost All Meaning
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SyracuseDemocrat Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:19 AM
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26. Well, it depends
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 11:20 AM by SyracuseDemocrat
Do you mean the most progressive candidate currently or the most CONSISTENTLY progressive candidate? For the first answer, it would be Kucinich. But for the second answer, it would be KERRY. Kerry has never had anything less than a 100% rating from the pro-choice groups. Up till this year, Kucinich had a 95% rating from the national right to life committee. Let's remember who has the lowest ACU rating now... it's Kerry, not Kucinich. Kucinich also voted for the flag burning amendment, and Kerry voted against it. Kucinich, Gore, and Gephardt are all examples of pro-lifers who turned pro-choice when it became politically expedient. Gore and Gephardt did it in the 88 campaign and Kucinich is doing it now. These were all solid pro-lifers who realized the reality of a Democratic presidential campaign and how you much be pro-choice to win. Kucinich is fraudelent in this respect. I don't believe that he's really changed. If you want a candidate who has been progressive for almost 20 years in Congress, pick John Kerry. His fellow Massachusetts senator, Ted Kennedy, endorsed him, for christ's sake. How much more liberal can you get than Ted Kennedy? Kerry is the real deal, and to all of you Kerry-haters, don't you dare bring up the Iraq War vote and the Patriot Act, or the "Homeland Gestapo" . Come off it and come into the REAL WORLD sometime. 3 other presidential candidates voted for the war besides Kerry, but I don't see you savaging them near as much. I will just conclude with this: Kerry has a lower ACU rating than anyone else running. I believe it is 6. Kucinich's is like 13, due to his "abortion transformation." I know that women's groups would much rather have a Kerry than a Kucinich.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:33 AM
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27. I Can Never Forgive Kucinich For His Flag Burning Amendment Vote
I am not an absolutist on many things but I am an absolutist on the First Amendment.

What a d-r-e-a-d-f-u-l vote.
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