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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:32 PM Original message |
Diebold weighs in with rebuttals -- want to weigh in with the facts? |
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Starpass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bev--can I ask you somethng |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Good question Starpass... |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. They're not at all happy. Note that sponsors for Rush Holt's bill |
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DEMActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Rebuttal to Point #1 |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Really am punchy, but before I forget...from their own manuals |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. I will distribute to my lists - If you or Allen will email them to me -or |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Hey Bev!!! You;re Back.. I Have A Favour To Ask DU |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Did so. Hey, there were a couple broken links in your article |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Fixed now... Good spotting... |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. It's on Yahoo! |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. it was on the 6:00 news here in CA! |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
59. That's great, arcane1 |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 02:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
80. I saw that too |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. #1 - Fine - show us your current code. |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't have supporting data for most of these, but... |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Knew you'd be awesome. |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. On #6... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. About that voter recall: Has it ever been done? |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I'm on it Bev although a little 'punchy' myself! |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Check particularly #4, if you would. |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Well the state people "escrow the source code" |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. "go all woozly "? Is that a new technical term? I like it! |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. I agree, re #1 |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
37. i would add to number two that |
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alaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. I really don't understand alot about this, but #6 sounds |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 08:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. LOL -- can you just see running around Baltimore trying to find |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. But did they ever do it? |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. There was a place in North Carolina that did, but I think it was ES&S |
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alaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Thank you. Not that they would. And guess which |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:01 PM Original message |
IIRC, others have said the same thing about... |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. coming back with their standard pitch |
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LizW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
18. Here's mine |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Woo hoo -- there's a gem. |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
20. Here's some rebuttals... |
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Zan_of_Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 01:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
73. Yes |
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DrBB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
22. Upcoming USENIX Security conference in DC relevant here? |
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DEMActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. This issue has been on the agenda for some time |
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DrBB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yup--Dill is on the e-voting session panel. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
26. Laughable. |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Woh! Tahiti! Suddenly another favorite of mine appears |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
30. Okay |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. On #3, maybe a good response would be... |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
32. If they want to come out with a straightforward rebuttal that will stand |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Excellent. Precisely right. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
35. Is there a need for "official" response - or do we just pull from these |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Looking for logical, powerful, factual rebuttals that also help the press |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
40. WEIGH IN? NEW REBUTTAL - Georgia official Michael Barnes |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. MORE: New AJC article |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Okay.... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. We want science, not art(ful dodgers). |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 12:24 AM Response to Reply #42 |
68. I saw that... that new quote from barns is fascinating... |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 01:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
74. I find this quote interesting: |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Umm... |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. MORE FROM BARNES (he was chatty today) |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. This says, in essence, that... |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:32 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Don't forget that reporters and writers often take things out of context |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 12:26 AM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Mercuri Should Write To The Editor About This |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Two words: Palm Pilot |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. A laptop? What about an iPaq? |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 11:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. In fact all you need |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
41. Rebuttal to point 1 |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 03:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
81. "Rebuttal to point 2" |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 05:52 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. "Rebuttal to point 3" |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 06:59 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. "Rebuttal to point 4" |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 07:03 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. "Rebuttal to point 5" |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 07:24 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. "Rebuttal to point 6" |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 07:44 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Summery |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. Sigh. |
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RedEagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. This may be redundant.... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
51. #6 is key |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. It's against the law in every state (I think) to identify... |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. federal law (or some law) requires |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. thanks...that makes sense |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 12:00 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. The point, though, is that if... |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
62. Ask more questions, so they can tell you more lies! |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
63. An interesting statistic that is probably meaningless. But... |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 12:04 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. While the code is badly bloated... |
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Bushfire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
66. Moony Times runs with AP story |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
67. The thing I found most curious |
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classics (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
70. Ok lets take these one at a time... |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 01:27 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Well done. Here's my husband's rebuttal: |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 02:52 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Perfect! |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
71. #5 - "...we've had great success with them". LOL! I'll bet they have! |
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Zan_of_Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 01:57 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Ok |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
75. Ah, and the rebuttal in the Washington Post: |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 02:07 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Okay, Alleghany County... |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 02:48 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Have they verified that code has been updated? Or that the code that |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-03 04:34 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. No, they've merely asserted that it is so... |
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