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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:38 PM
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So...Is this the dawn? Dare we hope?
You know how it's supposed to be darkest before the dawn? Well the past few months have been pretty friggin' DARK. So is it dawn yet?

I mean, not to get excited, but since I left the country at the beginning of July, we've seen:

* the media suddenly wake up and smell the bullshit
* the intelligence communities in the US and UK sing like canaries
* the Bush team plumb new depths of sleaze (and you didn't think it was possible!)
* Ari leave to be replaced by a guy who apparently doesn't share his gift for mesmerizing the press corps into believing he's not spouting a steaming pile of crap
* Condi Rice put her head on the chopping block
* Wolfowitz now admitting we did some "stupid things" in Iraq
* and now a lot of media coverage going after electronic voting, a big boost for a cause dear to the hearts of so many DUers.

I mean...I don't know why NOW, but it kinda looks like maybe Bush and his buddies are finally headed for some UGLY.

I remember someone saying, back when someone had announced that Bush was going to be toast over something or other, "Bush has been called toast so often that one would think he wears a suit of jam." Well maybe so...but it would not surprise me to see the boy down at Smucker's getting himself measured for one.

Please let this be the beginning of the end of the world's worst nightmare,

The Plaid Adder
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:55 PM
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1. High Probability: aWol, admin and cabal crash, burn, blow away
Yes, Adder, there are many trains leaving the station now, and some are well underway. They stop colocationally with the buck, and but will steam like holy rollers right over many greasy spots along the way.

One well down the tracks features a probable criminal act, certain criminal investigation (likely underway), and possible criminal charges.

And on all the schedules is the Vice President of the United States.

Lots, Lots more. Easily imagined is "way bigger than Iran-Contra" as well as "much worse than Watergate".

I swear this is true. I have seen. It truly is a freedom train, and all you got to do is get on board.

All Aboard?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:56 PM
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2. Welcome back! I've missed you.
Where were you out of country? Hope you had a wonderful time. I'm relieved that you were away because I was afraid you'd given up on us for some reason.

To answer your question, some of us are actually daring to believe, sorta kinda maybe, that this is the beginning of a really rough time for the old WHO (White House Occupant).

The utterly delicious thing for me is that this Iraq thing isn't something they can control. It aint' going away and they can neither disappear it nor fix it. I don't think they can impose a news blackout on the U.S. casualites, nor are they going to stop the troops from complaining to their loved ones back home. The news WILL get out. Also, the foreign press will continue to cover the absolute travesty which Iraq is and shall be for the foreseeable future, so that won't completey go away either.

Sad that so many people had to die, and I hate that part more than I have yet been able to articulate. But if anyone deserves this to have something ike that hung around their necks, it's this crew.

Eloriel

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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:21 PM
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8. me too! (missed Plaid Adder that is....)
she's baaaack!! yay!! :hi:
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EAMcClure Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:08 PM
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3. More to come, but it is all rough stuff
Bush is certainly on a downward trend. His Presidency rests on whether or not the military can safely secure the oil fields and secure the necessary domestic contracts to exploit them. Those are the people his Presidency depends on. If they lose faith, and if Bush has to kowtow to the UN in order to save political face, then scandals will erupt that will take him down. Suddenly, the media will begin to know a lot of things about him that those of us who've hated the gutless bastard for years knew a while ago.

Just because Bush can get taken down does not mean we've won. Far from it. If Bush gets taken down because the media latches on to him like a pit bull, then we can surmise that Bush alienated his donor base. Also, if the donor base alienates Bush, we should all recognize that Bush has successfully implemented much of their vision... some of that vision will not be erased for some time.

To rely on the corporate media to blow the whistle on the Bush regime is to rely on the master to euthanise a rabid pet.

Bush is not the problem. Incompetence is only terrifying if it is allowed to assume command.

Eric
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:10 PM
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4. Love your optimism.
You cheer us up.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:19 PM
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5. When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto
said after the attack,

"I fear all we have done is to awaken the sleeping giant,and fill him with terrible resolve."
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:20 PM
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Do not underestimate the Bush cabal...
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 07:21 PM by The Night Owl
Do not underestimate Bush's overlords. They are smart, powerful, and tenacious. These New World Order jerkoffs are not going to give up that power easily... at least not as easily as the last time they were removed from The White House.

I predict that Bush will try to turn the tide by doing something dramatic soon. What, is anybody's guess.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:20 PM
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6. There's certainly more hope than ever!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:21 PM
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7. Have a look at this page at Yahoo! Baaaad News for Bush!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:25 PM
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9. kinda mindblowing, that page...
hoodathunk?
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