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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:29 PM
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Kerry's Campaign Is No Longer A House Divided
For months, the Kerry campaign had been split between two competing camps. Kerry was getting advice out of both ears, and probably accounted for the lack of clarity from his early campaigning months. It wasn't that Kerry didn't have a good message, he had too many of them. What ended up sticking out was an over-reliance on his Vietnam credentials and a false sense of inevitability.

Between the two camps were the professional Washington advisors - including some of the top names in the business - and the Boston people that had been with Kerry for his entire political life. I don't think it's a big surprise which camp I thought was better for Kerry. Fortunately, they won - perhaps because of the special credibility that Kerry seems to give to Jeanne Shaheen (who supported a shake-up).

For better or worse, Kerry has finally answered the age old decision to crap or get off the pot. That's about as far as I'm going to go with that metaphor. Judging by his personal performances, which have been getting stronger and sharper with each week, I can only hope that the Boston people get that message out more effectively.

I believe that Kerry does much better under intense pressure, far more than if he were cautiously nursing a lead. I'd certainly prefer that he were blowing the rest of the pack out of the water, but I'm comfortable where he is - psychologically. I think you can see him getting into gladiator mode, and I think it's going to be one hell of a ride. If he doesn't make it, it won't because he didn't go out swinging.

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The NYTimes gives a quick background of the tensions that had been simmering within the campaign, and you can understand why Jordan's dismissal is ultimately a relief.


At one point, the infighting in the Kerry campaign became so intense that rival camps — one based in Washington and one in Boston — prepared different versions of the senator's official announcement speech. That dispute marred Mr. Kerry's announcement tour and led one aide involved in the battle, Chris Lehane, to quit, later joining the campaign of Wesley K. Clark, the retired general.

Mr. Shrum, Mr. Jordan and Mr. Lehane were at the center of a dispute in September that brought to the surface the feuds that have shaken the Kerry campaign and produced what even Kerry advisers said were conflicting signals.

The dispute focused on Mr. Kerry's announcement speech and pitted Mr. Jordan and Mr. Lehane, then serving as communications director, against Mr. Shrum and members of Mr. Kerry's Boston-based circle of family and advisers, campaign workers say.

The new campaign manager, Ms. Cahill, is close to Bob Shrum, a Washington consultant and speechwriter who had been battling with Mr. Jordan for influence in Mr. Kerry's campaign.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/11/politics/11KERR.html?pagewanted=2

Which brings me to Bob Shrum:

The 1996 Senate campaign between John Kerry and William Weld was the rarest of events in latter-day American politics: a civil, closely contested, intelligent, and wildly entertaining brawl. "Both candidates were incredibly popular," the Kerry consultant John Marttila said. "Both had sixty-per-cent favorable ratings, and negatives in the twenties. And they maintained their popularity throughout the race."

"We were pummelling him through August, said Weld, "But his campaign turned on a dime when Bob Shrum was hired as his consultant. It went from flaccid to sharp in a week."

Kerry's aides insist that it was more than Shrum. They say that Kerry was distracted in Washington, that he didn't really focus on the campaign until the Senate recessed. "It wasn't a lack of focus," Kerry says. "It was a strategy. I figured people wouldn't really be paying attention until the fall debates."

The last four debates were fabulous political theatre-two very smart men having at each other. "John's at his best under pressure, when he's being seriously challenged," Paul Nace, an old Navy friend, says. "He gets really cool, very calm. He really is a warrior-he just loves it. I took one look at him as he was walking into Faneuil Hall for one of the last debates and I thought, Bill Weld has no idea what's about to hit him."

Kerry won the election by eight percentage points. "John has always been underestimated politically," Marttila says. "But that race had the quality and intensity of a Presidential campaign, and he won. I don't see how they can underestimate him anymore, but they probably will."
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:31 PM
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1. Who's going to be the first one
to be critical of this post?
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:34 PM
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2. I Was Thinking The Same Thing
Somehow, the snide comments always type a little bit faster.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:35 PM
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4. Waitting.......
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 10:36 PM by La_Serpiente
Still Waiting........:freak: :eyes: :boring:

And I am not even a Kerry supporter.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:37 PM
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6. Kerry is a sick BFEE enabler who wants to take over the world
with his old high school hockey buddy Robert Mueller.

Better? :)
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:39 PM
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7. HMmmm.....
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 10:40 PM by La_Serpiente
well, I was expecting something that lacked more substance than what you provided....but I guess it will do.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:41 PM
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8. Kerry is a sdkjh alsdjh p;qurrjk ;asdhv[owi ;sjdhi ;qv[inrjk'oxjfr
and you can tell him I said so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Better? :)
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:44 PM
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9. I think that will do
You did a good job Will.

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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:49 PM
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10. No, Mr. Pitt left out one thing
He didn't mention Skull and Bones. Isn't it mandatory to at least give passing reference to S&B when slamming Kerry?

I mean, come on! Let's do this right, OK?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:50 PM
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11. Stupid stupid stupid
I beg your forgiveness. :(
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:35 PM
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3. Man, I hope you're right
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:37 PM
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5. Kerry is a fighter
He won't give up until the last shot is fired. I think he will surprise a lot of the other candidates in his tenacity.

I say this based on things I have read and also a little flavor item I heard Kerry say at one debate when asked his favorite song,

"Never surrender"
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:41 PM
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16. COREY HART?!?
Hahahahahah, that dude was like a one hit wonder back in 1987! :D

Later.

RJS
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 01:24 PM
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18. Thankfully, I think Gary Hart is more influential on Kerry
than any other Hart. ;)
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:14 PM
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22. Damn, We Could Have Used The Goonies Endorsement
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:38 PM
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24. Yeah he really fought Bush on IWR, didnt he!
With fighters like that, lets just put our weapons down and give up.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:47 PM
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25. We aren't in Iran and Syria are we?
I'd say those nations and the UN are appreciative of Kerry's fighting for a better resolution.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:53 PM
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12. Well, since no one is sharing their views
I'll take a stab here. I believe the one that is going to win this primary will be the one that has the momentum right now. I will wait to see the polls coming out from Iowa, New Hampshire, and the Nation these next couple of days. I think we have reached the turning point of this primary season and we are by far no where close to the rollup to the primary season.

I think we still have many more debates for each candidate to prove himself/herself.
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knaveree Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:00 PM
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13. Good information
As I've said in another blog recently, I've seen Kerry in person five times, and walked away on each occasion wondering why it was even a race, he was so good. And then I read the papers and I see a little electric media and I'm wondering why his obvious skill and passion aren't translating. I had to figure it was something with the campaign, and so I'm glad to see it consolidating and working for consistency. I think everyone will be better off if both Kerry and Dean are at the top of their games. Whoever ends up on top will be better for the experience, since if either Kerry beats Dean or Dean beats Kerry, the winner will have already beaten somebody far more skilled than Bush.

My own preference is for the Senator, of course... :smoke:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 01:43 PM
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19. I am similarly impressed and left with the exact same sentiments
hopefully the next debate they'll ask him about the campaign changes, and it will be an opportunity for him to shine.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:09 PM
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21. The Media Prefer "Process" Stories, And Dean Is Big On Process
Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 04:10 PM by DrFunkenstein
The media seems to believe that policy plays absolutely no part in politics. But they like to report about polls, money raised, internet gizmos, and whatever else lets them earn a check without doing any research.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 09:53 AM
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27. Media prefers hot rhetoric to define the Dem party as angry left.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:50 PM
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26. I feel the same way
I listen to him in person and it's a no-brainer.

I'm hoping this is the start of the momentum swing.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:06 PM
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14. Kerry Is A Pro With The Right Stuff
He's got a couple of weeks to get it together and it won't surprise me a bit if he pulls it off.

He's my VP pick dontcha know :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:37 PM
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15. Appreciate the perspective, Doc....that's how I feel.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:42 PM
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17. Beyond all the gaffes, he's still a solid candidate. (nt)
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 02:40 PM
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20. I hope he does turn things around, he's a good prospect.
But I also hope that the respect that has been shown in this tread could be carried over to the other candidates as well.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:14 PM
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23. Hopefully, Hopefully
The respect keeps up, as does the Senator.
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