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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 03:46 PM
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I've never started or participated in the numerous Green/Dem debates on this board. I'm snipping and linking to this article now because Mike Tomasky is a great writer, and in-coming editor of the American Prospect, and his liberal/progressive credentials are impeccable.
Read and discuss:

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Here they come again. As if the last two and a half years have been some sort of game show with no real consequences for America and the world, the Greens signaled at their national committee meeting this weekend that they have every intention of running a presidential candidate in 2004.

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So here's a thought for an enterprising Democratic candidate: Attack Nader right now, and with lupine ferocity. Say he's a madman for thinking of running again. Blast him especially hard on foreign policy, saying that if it were up to the Greens, America would give no aid to Israel and it would cease to exist, and if it were up to the Greens, America would not have even defended itself against a barbarous attack by going into Afghanistan. Have at him, and hard, from the right. Then nail him from the left on certain social issues, on abortion rights and other things that he's often pooh-poohed and dismissed as irrelevant. Cause an uproar. Be dramatic. Don't balance it with praise about what he's done for consumers. To the contrary, talk about how much he's damaging consumers today by not caring who's in charge of the Food and Drug Administration or the Federal Communications Commission.

This would be, for some clever Democrat, the defining Sister Souljah moment of this campaign. Except times 50, because Sister Souljah was a second-tier rapper no one had heard of and Ralph Nader is one of the most famous Americans of the last half-century. Anyone who did this would automatically look tough. The candidates are running around now saying things like, "I'll be as tough as Bush." Well, you can say that 7,000 times and it doesn't matter. You have to do something to show people you're tough. That's the only way a message like that is delivered in a campaign. Then, people will look at what you've done and say, "Hey, that guy's pretty tough."

Who should do it? That's up to them. It wouldn't have much impact coming from Joe Lieberman, because he's not hunting for any votes over there in anything close to Nader territory. It has to be someone with at least one leg in the liberal soil -- John Kerry, Dick Gephardt or Howard Dean. Yes, Dean. If Dean does this, he doesn't lose his base -- his base is pissed-off Democrats who hate Nader for 2000, so if anything, he augments his standing among them. And, of course, he sends a reassuring signal to the centrist wing of the party that fears his success; it would give them something about him to admire. He can't lose.

http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2003/07/tomasky-m-07-23.html
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 03:52 PM
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1. sad

All this article says is "so your too scared and wimpy to beat up on bush so go find someone weaker and go beat up on them."

Pathetic

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:20 PM
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3. Nope.,..it says attack an opposition party with all the gusto you got!
Poor Greenies,,, Let's see if they can stand the heat.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:46 PM
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5. I agree...
It should be the mode of attack on Bush also.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 03:54 PM
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2. heh!
okay, which one of you guys in Mike Tomasky?

coz it's obvious he's been visiting DU the last week or so! :)
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:22 PM
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4. That's a brilliant idea!!
It punctures the self-importance of both NAder and the Greens, while at the same time, helps distance liberals from the charge of being beholden to radical "interest groups"
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 12:19 PM
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6. kick
We should fight all our enemies with equal zeal.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:53 PM
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7. dupe
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