Who says "A vote that HELPS Bush is a vote FOR Bush."?

[Tyler Durden]

BESIDES this old Socialist here?

[bergamot]

1. Not me.

Thanks for asking.

[Tyler Durden]

4. Enjoy the camps.

I won't be there, and when you get your day pass to dig graves, none will be for me and mine.

If Bush makes it, whether the country goes stupid or with help, I won't stay for the revolution. Thanks for asking.

[goobergunch]

2. "Kind of," says the Goobergunch (n/t)

[Skittles]

3. ABSAF***INGLUTELY; so sayeth SKITTLES

nt

[MUAD_DIB]

5. 2+2= ?

[jobycom]

6. Me

There are no moral victories, only tough choices. Whatever the heck that means.

[slackmaster]

7. A vote for a third party is equivalent to half a vote for Bush

And half a vote against the Democratic candidate.

[izzie]

8. Sounds like Bush double speak.

n/t

[LiberalLibra]

10. There is no double speak, not when it is reality......

....a vote for anyone but the Dem candidate is a vote for Bush & Co.

[lcordero]

9. My personal philosophy is that "a vote that helps a Bush abettor is a vote

that helps Bush".
A vote that helps a Bush abettor is a vote against the working class.

A vote that helps a Bush abettor is a vote against children that are draft age or are approaching draft age.

A vote that helps a Bush abettor is a vote against corporate accountability.

A vote that helps a Bush abettor is a vote against integrity.

A vote that helps a Bush abettor is a vote against military people.

A vote that helps a Bush abettor is a vote for unending war.

If the Bush abettor has a (D) next to their name then I will not be voting for them.

[dae]

11. Me! n/t

[TahitiNut]

12. Does that include those ...

... who voted for the Bushoilini invasion of Afghanistan?
... who voted for the Bushoilini invasion of Iraq?
... who voted for the Bushoilini Patriot Acts?
... who voted for the Bushoilini tax cuts?
... who voted for the Bushoilini FCC ruling?
... who voted for the Bushoilini agenda in many other ways?

Hmmm...?
If one then votes for these people, what's the difference? :eyes:

[leftofthedial]

13. voting for anyone other than the Democratic candidate

is a vote for evil.

[qandnotq]

14. No.

It's sort of like not voting at all. I assume you are talking about voting Green. I'd rather have someone vote Green than vote Republican. Then, the vote is just irrelevant rather than harmful.

[StandWatie]

15. simple fools..

who want easy solutions to complex problems

[Tyler Durden]

16. NO, PATRIOTS who want to have a country in 5 years.

I kid you not, if Bush gets back in, the Republic may not even EXIST in 5 years. How long can we last with a 40 trillion dollar debt, wars on all fronts, and all dissent in "First Amendment Camps"?

IT WILL HAPPEN. If you want it to happen, why not just be honest and push for Bush.

I will not stay in the violence and watch my children get drafted or die in the streets.

[StandWatie]

17. then you need an alternative

half the dem candidates don't want breathing room between them and the "war on terrorism".

A few of the candidates have broadsided him for not being enough of a middle east hawk, so what the hell is the difference?

There are people I will back and there are people I won't dirty myself with because it doesn't help and could even hurt and I'll take my dissent to the ballot box despite a bunch of cowardly, puffed up, "We have to support our corrupt party no matter what nonsense", and I'll hope that most people have more balls than you. If that fails then I go to the street to fight against Bush or Lieberman or Bob Graham or whoever regardless of the D or R the new Crusaders use as a label.

[Tyler Durden]

20. Use .45 not 9mm.

better stopping power. Have a nice war in the streets. I'll pray for you even though I'm an agnostic.

[StandWatie]

22. eh, I hope it's just people power..

as long as there are polling places, I'll be working against fear and taking my licks from the stormtroopers.

If you think it's going to go that bad that we are moving beyond that you better find someone more potent than the flag waving, we love Bushit wing of the Democratic Party to save you or you may just wind up in the Gulag with a Donkey presiding over the camp as Dear Leader.

[Blue-Jay]

18. My humble take on it:

The fact that Republican interest groups donated money to the Nader campaign says to me that, yes, voting for Nader is indeed a great help to the GOP. Help that I will not give.

It's not that I have a problem with the Green Party platform. I quite like most of their ideas, and if the day ever comes that a Green Party candidate stands a reasonable chance of gaining the presidency, I'll likely vote Green.

[Terwilliger]

19. everybody else who hates Nader, generally

and you're not a socialist...a socialist wouldn't stand for the neoliberal ways of the Democrats

[Tyler Durden]

21. You don't know me.

And I would be willing to bet you don't have my cred.

SDS
SNCC
Young Communists
CPUSA
Rainbow People's Party

So knock it off with the nonsense. I don't hate Nader. I DO hate Bush. And REAL Socialists are political REALISTS. And PATIENT.

When the shooting starts, I won't be here, because it's too soon, for the wrong reasons, and wasn't a political necessity. PRAGMATISM is SOCIALIST; we don't RELIGIOUSLY follow a path, especially when we won't win.

If Nader was going to win, I'd quit my job to work on the campaign. He won't. Get real.