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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:32 PM
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Stunning Victories Ahead for Dems
Ordinary people are starting to see how badly the Bush administration is floundering. For example, Bush can't meet current military commitments without doing something drastic and radical. It's bad enough that he's activated the Reserves and the National Guard for year-long tours in a war that he himself provoked, but he can't sustain the losses.

Republicans are approaching a crisis - they can no longer provide a coherent, lucid explanation of what they're up to. The best they can do is ask for patience until events start to make sense. But events are spinning out of control because Republican theories are wrong. Americans are becoming restless.

When the Democrats lost their way in the 60's, voters rejected their candidates in favor of Nixon, Ford and Reagan. It's now turned around. A vote for a Republican candidate is a vote to continue milling around, lost in the desert.

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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:35 PM
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1. as long as they don't declare martial law.....
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 03:35 PM by virtualobserver
we should be in good shape.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 06:47 PM
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12. Won't need martial law...rolling out PC Voting as fast as they can
No paper trail and no recounts...

Just trust the software to cast your vote.

We are in trouble, folks. The DNC is so busy trying to find a candidate, they seem to be missing the whole boat on the fair elections issue.

If we have *one* fair nationwide election left, any nominated Democrat can beat Bush & Co. (save some scandal). I just worry that we won't have a fair nationwide election left by '04.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:48 PM
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2. That's why many Republicans and their radio talk show supporters are
hysterically mad. They really aren't made at the Dems, they are angry at Bush and themselves for being so blindly led down the path to hell by a lying, cowardly chickenhawk and his minions. Notice how they almost are screaming through their tears?
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:51 PM
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3. You're dreaming. Democrats don't have what it takes to fight an enemy
like the Republicans. In fact, they're not even capable of fighting at all -- with a few exceptions, they merely go through the motions. No one is going to bother voting for a bunch of whiny little cowards that vote with Bush 85% of the time, then timidly quibble about the precise way in which he implements policies they themselves voted for.

You're right that Republicans have an approaching crisis, but it's not going to redound to the benefit of Democrats. The crisis will easily be managed by expert control of the media, and a modest temporary upwards blip in the economy.
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:17 PM
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7. How You Slice It
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 04:19 PM by dreissig
People have expectations of government that the Republican Party isn't delivering. It's no longer enough that government is cheaper under the GOP. For one thing, that's not even true. Instead of paying attention to domestic problems, Bush goes around starting wars and losing them. It won't make any difference how they slice it, those people don't have anything to sell.

Edit: typo
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:25 PM
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9. I do not entirely disagree
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 04:28 PM by quaker bill
The democratic leadership in congress has been pretty much useless, with a few noted (and unfortunately ineffective) exceptions, over the last 3 years.

Krugman describes a paradigm fairly well in the introduction to the Great Unravelling. He thinks that these men assumed they were dealing with someone in Bush* who was playing the game by the rules. The basic misconception was that Bush* would, of course, give some goodies away to his campaign contributors, as expected, but that he would not throw the entire country under the bus in the process.

They misjudged the man. They got caught flat footed. Some have learned from this, some definitely have not.

I do not see the democratic party (of today) as those currently in office or leadership positions. They were largely chosen at another time for completely different reasons. Many of them need to be replaced. This is why the Dean and Clark campaigns are doing so well. Kerry and Gep are symbolic of the existing leadership, whether they are actually complicit in it or not, it is why they are having to work very hard to hold on to natural advantages that should by all rights be theirs.

Many of the people have caught on to the notion that Shrubya* has changed the rules of this game and are seeking new leadership to come to terms with it. One could debate, and many here do, whether either of these guys is the right one to assume the mantle.

Regardless of your stand there, the dynamic of the outside insurgent candidate is a feature of this comming election largely because your main point is well spoken.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:59 PM
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4. You could be right, Rich
that's why I'm putting my money on the Ream-publicans themselves. Arrogance and stupidity is its own punishment. These people have sunk themselves without any assistance from the Democrats. Those hot-air windbags get up there and blabber, only to be proven wrong time after time.

Notice Bush and his little "fib" about the banner on the Aircraft carrier last week? That was so obvious. He doesn't need enemies. He's having a tough time keeping track of all his lies, because the media IS ALWAYS WATCHING and the tape recorder is always on. He can't escape that fact, and neither can the rest of them.

Too bad about the Democrats, though. What's the story with them?
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livinontheedge Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:08 PM
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5. You may be right, but we haven't seen the republicans/Rove fight back
yet. They are saving their gazillion dollars of political ads for later (probably about March '04). I fear we have already taken our best shots at Bush. I mean, who hasn't heard 500 times that Bush lied? That the Iraqi war is illegal? That Bush gave tax cuts to the rich? I wonder what will happen when he starts firing back and attacking our nominee?
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:13 PM
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6. I guess someone who listens to Right-Wing Hate Radio....
all day long, would believe that. But Rove has already used up his best ammunition. Any administration that is desperate enough to out a CIA agent is near the end of its rope.
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Bollinger Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:23 PM
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8. Like Daschle said, Bush can't take much more of this "progress"
Freeing Iraq is just a Mogadishu away! :bounce:
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 05:24 PM
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10. oswald
dean better watch his back. any threat to the dream of world dom. does not include him. remember:

jfk
robert
malcolm
wellstone
dr. king

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 06:18 PM
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11. Hi Bollinger!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Coldgothicwoman Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 06:53 PM
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13. Hi, Bollinger
Welcome to DU!!

:grouphug:
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 06:54 PM
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14. Voters never rejected us in favor of Ford
I'm nitpicking, I know, but Ford was never elected. He was beaten by Jimmy Carter.
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