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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:20 AM
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The US is in a quandry over proving Saddams sons are dead
If they really are dead most of the world will not believe it until they see photos of the bodies. If they do show photos there will soon be photos of dead US soldiers splashed everywhere. That is a hell of a problem that the idiots running this show did not think about before this all began. One of many.

Don

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:23 AM
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1. Photos are not proof
I can make you a photo that shows them dead, wearing pink tutus, with Saddam weeping over their bodies. That would prove just as much as the BFEE's photos would prove. Nothing.


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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:24 AM
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2. No one but Smirk and the U.S. media thinks it matters anyway....
Killing the dictator's sons is a meaningless gesture. The idea that it will stop or slow the guerilla war is simply delusional.

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Gasolinedream Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:48 AM
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7. I have to agree
Why would the resistance force just give up because the sons were dead? The were definitely scumbags and I am certain that many even in Iraq are happy that they are dead, but why would the "resistance fighters" stop fighting? Would you stop if your leaders were dead and you were fighting an occupying force? I don't think so--at least not in this type of fighting.

Now, I did hear that they may have been helping fund the attacks in some way?? Ok, I have no idea how money would help them other than to buy weapons maybe, but i am certain there are sympathizers who would provide weapons free of charge.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:13 AM
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11. I know! "Smirk and the US media" don't get it! They never
have so why start now? The Iraqis from what I can gather are glad sadam and his sons (especially his sons) are Gone! But they want the Americans outta there, too! In fact some are saying it was better under sadam because they had water, food, electricity, and a safe shelter.

the bushwas opened a Pandoras Box that they were told not to open and now they don't know what the blue blazes to do about what they have wrought.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:26 AM
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3. Too anxious for the sensationalism and appeals to barbarism and murder
to think past it--they will, in their business, ceo mode, strive then fix it somehow-which always has worked for them so far-important thing is make people think it happened, feel avenged for something they not know why they think they must feel avenged, and fix it anyway you canm, even if it is a lie--people will be so pumped up when they see the grotesque photos, it will not matter if Bush lied about that too.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:27 AM
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4. I thought the hospitals were looted
Where would those medical records that could identify the body be stored?


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Cujo Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:30 AM
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5. it doesn't matter
if they're dead or not (which I don't think they are). Dubya wanted to be able to say something was being achieved in order to "justify" all the American deaths over there. Also they trumpeted We "got" Uday and Qusay and then slipped the fact that they lied about Niger in there. None of this shit is going to end until Dubyas gone.
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:31 AM
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6. Damned if we do...
Personally I don't think the quandry is prooving the sonsare dead, it's proving that we have any right in international law and example in historic war precident to act as if the US military were mafia hit men.

The world still largely sees us as the agressor. And that we are unable/unwilling to capture these people alive (for information on WMD, perhaps) we further the image of bully.

We ae more unpopular in the world than Saddam is.

Assuming we care about the rest of the world and at some point want to deal with them as respectful equals, is this a success?
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mike6640 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:51 AM
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8. I heard an interesting bit of info
on NPR this am. Evidently, the US has flown the remains out of Baghdad aiport. WTF? Why do they need to do that? Perhaps for ID purposes? Maybe they will lay them in state for a staged viewing of a parade of gullible (and strong stomached) press?

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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:52 AM
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9. Given our current "rep" as lying bastards...
Given our current "rep" as lying bastards, I doubt there's
ANY proof we could offer that would convince the
skeptics.

Photos? Photoshop.

DNA? Faked data (ask the LAPD).

Dental records? Puh-leeze!

When we started lying, we set ourselves up for this. We're screwed.

Atlant
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:00 AM
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10. IT ONLY
really matters to our side as a morale boost to the disspirited troops who are spinning thier wheels and being shot at daily.
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