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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:31 PM
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Bill Lockeyer
1) Could he be quietly laying the ground for a run for Governor in 2006?

2) By saying that he "voted for Arnold" he then can say "I gave him a chance" but that he "failed".

3) Arnold's hiring a PI to investigate the women makes him look scummy. And if something does exist to these charges then perhaps a recall could be done against him.

4) And then Lockeyer could run as the replacment candidate or then run in 2006.

Any comments?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:34 PM
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1. Forget the sexual battery for a minute but no longer,
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 10:37 PM by Cleita
how come no one has brought up his citizenship? Read this:

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger has denounced illegal immigration in his bid to become California's next governor, but the Austrian native may have stretched the bounds of United States law to secure his own ticket to America in the 1960s.
As a 21-year-old bodybuilder, Schwarzenegger came to the United States in 1968 on a B-1 visa, which allows visiting athletes to compete and train, but bars them from drawing a salary from an American company.
But in his 1977 autobiography, Schwarzenegger said he reached a deal with a legendary figure in the bodybuilding industry "to pay me a weekly salary in exchange for my information and being able to use photographs of me in his magazine."
That arrangement, said a half dozen immigration attorneys across the nation, appears to have violated the terms of his visa....more

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/pol.itics/6764572.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Should a possible illegal alien who obtained citizenship under questionable circumstances be allowed to take office?

Sorry about premature post. I did edit and add the link.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:36 PM
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2. Lockyer is laying the ground for a run for governor
But is also friends with Arnold. Frankly, given the fact that they have a personal relationship, he should probably recuse himself from any investigation of the charges against Arnold.

Let me preface that I hav known Lockyer since before he even graduated from law school. He isn't all THAT bad a guy but he GOT into HIS office MORE on Davis coattails and fundraising than HE would like to admit.

Frankly, I think he is like the NATIONAL dem party...they can't handle winning and, therefore, have to commit sepuku.

Arnold just raised the bar on the fluff of becoming governor as well. Frankly, Lockyer has let his looks (he actually USED to be a bit handsome) and BODY go to shit.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:38 PM
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3. Ok
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:40 PM
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4. Answers
1. It's no secret that Lockyer wants to be governor.

2. Yes, he could be laying the groundwork for that; however, he'll have to pass muster with Democrats in the Spring primary of 2006. Right now, I'd say, "Fat chance!"

3. Not if the legislature impeaches him first.

4. Again, Democratic activists feel betrayed here. I think Lockyer may have just as well jumped off a cliff.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:43 PM
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5. Yeah
But I am just thinking about whether Lockeyer was planning a strategy.

Then again maybe I am giving him too much credit.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 11:25 PM
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6. I don't know what he was thinking
If he had said nothing about how he voted, everybody would have just assumed that he voted for Bustamante. Bustamante was ahead at one point, and lost big. There's a word for politicians who are ahead in the polls and end up losing big: Finished. With Bustamante finished, Lockyer would have had a clear shot at the Democratic gubernatorial nomination in 2006. All he had to do was keep his ballot secret. Now, he's finished, too.

Unfortunately, there are no other big name Democrats who seem interested. We may have to see what happens in the 2004 elections.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 11:33 PM
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7. So who would run then?
Shelley, Angelides, Westely, Garamendi?

Westley is the weakest link, having one by only 16K votes.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:28 AM
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8. Angelides and Garamendi probably have the most name recognition
However, that really isn't that much, at least not with most voters.

Kevin Shelley may have picked up some name recognition, too, since he had to make decisions about the recent election. However, his decisions were in accordance with the law and not difficult ones to make. I think his predecessor, Republican Bill Jones, would have handled the recall exactly the same way. His role in the recall may have shown him to be a good bureaucrat, but it didn't allow him to show he could be a real leader.

We should also keep in mind that Arnold Schwarzenegger is a wild card in all this. We don't really know what kind of governor he is going make; more importantly in terms of an election, we don't know how the voters will take to him once he is in office. He could be a pushover in 2006 or he could be unbeatable. We don't know, but it will influence the decisions of his potential opponents.
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