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dawgman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:49 PM Original message |
So do most people here think Chomsky is: |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. his analysis is valuable |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 12:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
38. balance Chomsky with Zinn |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
78. Chomsky is an "eye-opener". Zinn clears smoke; Chomsky shatters illusions |
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La_Serpiente (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. Funny thing about Chomsky is that |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Brilliant. |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think he is right on |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Brilliant, but flawed |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 09:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
60. Pro Castro? Bwaahahaha |
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smallprint (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. He's Da Man |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
7. I like a lot of what he says about language and media.... |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 09:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
59. What qualifies anyone as an expert in your mind? |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. Norm Chomsky is not news. He is opinion. |
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dawgman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. you are right, news was not a good choice of words |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. I notice several folks here admire Mr. Chomsky . . . |
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Cat Atomic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Understanding Power is good. It's a collection of lectures. |
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smallprint (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yes, Understanding Power is a great book |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Thanks to both of you. |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 11:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. His lectures are more accessible: |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. A better first choice: "What Uncle Sam Really Wants" |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 01:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
75. Thanks for this information. |
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Room101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 12:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
35. Watch this video about chomsky |
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Room101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 12:20 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Chomsky is the man |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
44. I found Roge States to be best next to Understanding Power |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 06:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
53. hi, msmcghee. |
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gandalf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 07:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
55. Read the "Vietnam" Chapter in "Manufacturing Consent" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 07:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
56. The best Chomsky political works: |
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Cat Atomic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree with most of his interpretations of news, though I don't |
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frank frankly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. very important |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Circular, I'm sure. |
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poskonig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. a little off the wall. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
16. Chomsky Is a Teacher |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. His analysis is vastly superior to the mainstream point of view. If you |
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pinballer (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I think that Chomsky |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. My take on Chomsky |
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FDRrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. Right on... |
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Fenris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. Excellent works in the field of linguistics |
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absyntheNsugar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
25. "Manufacturing Consent" was really good |
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smallprint (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 10:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. He is NOT a Marxist |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 12:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. "Socialist Lite/New Deal Dem" |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:24 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Actually he and Zinn both profess to be... |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 08:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
57. Yer right... |
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gandalf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 07:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
54. "keep in mind he is a Marxist"??? |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
26. I like his ideas.. |
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fabius (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
27. Chomsky is right on n/t |
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UserJohnny1479 (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
28. Dead right and America should follow his lead |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
30. Great on the media, interesting on linguistics, wobbly on economics, and |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. What does "wacked on conspiracies" mean? Does it mean that he |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 10:45 AM Response to Reply #40 |
63. Wacked on conspiracies means that |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 10:50 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. That's hardly an argument... |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. This does not answer the question. You have said Chomsky is |
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robbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:44 PM Original message |
Chomsky most definitely NOT a conspiracy theorist |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
32. You should decide what you think about his views on issues, but the guy |
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FDRrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. its amzing... |
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jenm (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
33. He's very accessible |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
34. Not a source of "breaking" news, more like "retroactive" news |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 12:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Rudimentary fairness |
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spindoctor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
41. He never was a source of news. He is an analyst/historian. |
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dawgman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 03:20 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I've already let it be known that that was an ufortunate turn of phrase |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
42. No one is dead set right, however... |
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Newcastle (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 03:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Is anyone |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 05:07 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. What's your point? |
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Newcastle (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 05:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. It would be pretty hard |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
69. I'm not disagreeing! |
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Newcastle (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 03:35 AM Response to Original message |
47. If Chomsky is "unreliable" |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 05:13 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. The best thing about Chomsky are his footnotes.... |
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Capt_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
52. As a "source of news" he is one of the best |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
58. He presents invaluable analyses of relationships of power |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
61. Chomsky |
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LiberalTradition (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
62. For me his extreme bias ruins his message. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 10:47 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. how does Chomsky lack principle and integrity? got examples? |
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LiberalTradition (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 01:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Ok. |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Do you know anything about this source? |
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LiberalTradition (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 03:22 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. I am totally uninterested in his personal hypocrisy. |
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Cat Atomic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 10:52 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I've never heard the guy 'harp on about principle and integrity'. |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Exactly. |
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LiberalTradition (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 12:53 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. See my reply in post 71. If that doesn't convince, I don't know what will. |
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LiberalTradition (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 12:51 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Really? Chomsky constantly points out that the US government |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. How does he not apply it? |
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LiberalTradition (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 03:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. If I cannot get you to acknowledge the obvious, that |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 10:54 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. mmm hmmm |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:03 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Chomsky would be more effective if he were more like Alan Colmes |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. |
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LiberalTradition (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 01:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. I think you are missing my point. Chomsky correctly points out |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Again - care to give any examples, or define "notion of principle?" |
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LiberalTradition (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 03:14 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. I use Websters. You tell me what you use. |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 03:19 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Oh yes, he could use a lot more moral clarity |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
76. He's absolutely right, but its just one worldview |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
86. He Examines Effects, Not Motives |
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