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abcdan Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:47 PM
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Instant runoff vote
Has anyone tried an instant runoff vote at DU before? Wanna give it a go?

If you're not familiar with instant runoff voting, it's a method of voting that produces a majority winner as opposed to a winner by plurality.

Here are some web sites about it:
http://www.fairvote.org/irv/
http://www.instantrunoff.com/

The way it works is you rank all of the candidates from your favorite to your least favorite. Then, everybody's #1 candidate is tallied and if the leading vote getter has more than 50%, then that candidate is the winner. However, if the leading vote getter has less than 50%, then the candidate with the least votes is crossed off of everyone's ballot. The ballots are recounted, again tallying everyone's #1 candidate (the difference this time is that people who voted for the least vote getter as their #1 will now have their #2 counted as their new #1). This process is repeated until a candidate emerges with a majority of the votes.


Here's my vote:

1)Edwards
2)Clark
3)Kerry
4)Dean
5)Gephardt
6)Sharpton
7)Kucinich
8)Braun
9)Lieberman
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:51 PM
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1. here is mine
1)Kucinich
2)Clark
3)Dean
4)Gephardt
5)Edwards
6)Sharpton
7)Braun
8)Kerry
9)Lieberman
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:57 PM
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2. me
1. Kucinich
2. Kerry
3. Edwards
4. Dean
5. Gephart
6. Lieberman
7. Bruan
8. Clark
9. Sharpton
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:11 PM
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3. Let's try it...
1. Edwards
2. Kerry
3. Gephardt
4. Clark
5. Dean
6. Kucinich
7. Lieberman
8. Braun
9. Sharpton

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:16 PM
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4. I'll try but I am very unsure right now after the first two.

1)Kucinich
2)Kerry
3)Edwards
4)Braun
5)Sharpton
6)Gephardt
7)Clark
8)Dean
9)Lieberman
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:59 PM
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5. Kick n/t
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:01 PM
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6. Here's mine:
From favorite to least favorite:

1) Kerry
2) Moseley-Braun
3) Lieberman
4) Dean
5) Gephardt
6) Edwards
7) Clark
8) Sharpton
9) Kucinich

I would vote for any of them in the GE, but I'll be voting for Kerry in the primary. I really hope I don't have to vote for Sharpton or Kucinich in the GE.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:02 PM
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7. Mine
1)Dean
2)Edwards
3)Kerry
4)Clark
5)Gephardt
6)Kucinich
7)Braun
8)Sharpton
9)Lieberman
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:06 PM
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8. Instant Runoff Voting is Horrible!
Seriously... read up on the mathematical and algorithmic problems with it. It's worse than plurality, first-past-the-post voting, and that's an accomplishment.

If you want to support election reform, support Condorcet or Acceptance voting, which are far better at eliminating strategic voting, and not crippled by mathmatical irregularties.

In case you want a link: http://www.electionmethods.org
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abcdan Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:47 PM
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9. Condorcet or Acceptance voting
Thanks for the link - very interesting! The cool thing is that we can continue this voting experiment (by ranking the candidates), and afterwards count the votes by way of IRV and/or by using the Condorcet method.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:57 PM
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10. If you're interesting
http://www.bolson.org/voting/

Very interesting voting simulations. I've reproduced some of them in C++ (still working on the Condorcet algorithm; don't want to 'cheat' and look at the Python script), and his results are reproducable.

Good idea, though... though perhaps people should repost with their Acceptance ballots as well?
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:29 AM
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14. very interesting link
thanks
Scott
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theemu Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:15 PM
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11. mine
1)Dean
2)Edwards
3)Braun
4)Clark
5)Kerry
6)Gephardt
7)Kucinich
8)Sharpton
9)Lieberman
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:21 AM
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12. 1)Dean
2)Clark
3)Kerry
4)Kucinich
5)Sharpton
6)Braun
7)Gephardt
8)Edwards

oh, and

9)Lieberman
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:24 AM
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13. K
1. Kucinich
2. Sharpton
3. Mosely-Braun





9. Dean
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:32 AM
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15. Sounds very confusing
nt
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:45 AM
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17. yes, it's really too tough for some to figure out.
eom
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:41 AM
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16. I'll try it
1. Kerry
2. Edwards
3. Gephardt
4. Clark
5. Kucinich
6. Braun
7. Sharpton
8. Dean
9. Lieberman


The top and bottom couple were easy, but the middle aren't as clearly defined for me.
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