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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:17 PM
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Happy Halloween: this is a scary site....
Conservative truth.org...anyone been here?

Don't Let Your Kids Celebrate a Religion of Evil
By Tom Barrett
Do you want your children and grandchildren involved in a celebration of demons
and witchcraft? Halloween is not innocent fun with costumes and candy, as many
believe. You may be surprised by the roots of this religious holiday.

Every year we hear warnings of the dangers of Halloween on the news, which many
parents ignore. Children have received poisoned candy and apples containing
razor blades. Abductions of children increase on Halloween. There have even
been infant sacrifices. But the spiritual dangers are even greater. Many
children are terrified by the witches and ghouls, and often experience
nightmares. Most parents do not understand that they are allowing their
children participate in a celebration of all that is unholy.

Yery scary site indeed.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:21 PM
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1. what site?
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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:23 PM
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2. Sorry, I wasn't clear..
conservativetruth.org
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:27 PM
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3. Some real truth
No child has ever been killed by poisoned candy from a stranger. Oh there have been some poisonings but they were family members trying to use the urban legend as cover.

Same for razor blades. Another urban legend. Pity as they spoiled a great holiday.
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webDude Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:37 PM
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5. I know the "Candyman" of Houston, Texas poisoned his own son by
feeding him candy laced with cyanide from a pixie stick, there were other pixie sticks distributed, so as to try to hide the source. There were no deaths from those?
Incidentally, he fed his son the candy while his son was sitting on his lap. How's that for family values, Father-Son bonding?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:03 PM
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10. There were no other deaths from that one
He distributed but no one ate the stix.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:31 PM
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4. typical fundie claptrap. They also think J.K. Rowling is an agent of satan
and is deliberately spreading demonic beliefs to the children of the world.

These people live in the middle ages.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:37 PM
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6. These are the same type of people
who hate cats and have all kinds of stupid ideas about witches and paganism.



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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:55 PM
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8. But they love Rush
and post lots of photos of happy Iraqis "the liberal press doesn't want us to see"
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:57 PM
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9. witches and cats...
I must be an agent of the devil then.
I have two cats (and totally prefer them to dogs).
And... elf-WITCH? I am obviously pro pagan.
Plus you know what them neo-con types say about us Jews right?
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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:40 PM
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15. Dogs are better than cats
and simple evidence of this is that virtually every cat owner I have ever met has said to me about their cat, "he/she is LIKE A DOG."

If cats are superior this would not be a common thing for cat owners to say. And dog owners would commonly say "my dog is like a cat", which I have never heard a dog owner say.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:47 PM
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16. ummmm.... No
I have never said that about my cats and have never heard it said. Dogs are too damn needy. They are little co-dependent fur people. Dogs require too much maintenance. Cats are the way to go for me. Cats require advanced pet ownership skills. You can't have a cat and expect it to hang on your every word and action. Cats are companions not slaves. A cat and it's person make time for each other. Cats pick you. Dogs will be anyone's friend. Mutual respect for individual boundries it what you get when you have a cat.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:52 PM
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17. ummmm...a little too much attribution to the precious kitty
Cats, while very independent in SOME cases, are no respecter of boundaries. A cat will get what it wants, when it wants it.

TheProdigal
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:07 PM
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21. cats are just like me
I love cats because they are just as stubborn and strong willed as I am.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:58 PM
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19. Better at what?
I bet my cat is a better tree climber than your dog. I also bet my cat catches more mice than your dog. I could go on and on about what a cat can do better than a dog but what is the point? Dogs are cool but very predictable.
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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:02 PM
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20. Wow!
Your cat can climb trees! That is amazing!

Let me know when your cat stops a home invader. And I keep a clean home that is mice free.
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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:39 PM
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14. I hate cats too
I hate cats too. One need not be a wacko right winger to hate cats.

Cats Suck!
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:52 PM
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7. You think THAT'S scary?
Check out Jack Chick--the original:

www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/

What a holiday! Pagan roots, adapted by the Roman Catholic Church, brought to the USA by the Irish. Now, El Dia de los Muertos is part of the celebration--especially here in Texas. Not to mention that gays are among the more enthusiastic adult partiers.

So, anybody who has a problem with Pagans, Catholics, Irish, Mexicans and/or Gays will hate Halloween. (Hmmm, what should I wear this year?)
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:17 PM
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11. I have a black cat
She looks the very personification of evil when she flattens her ears . . . at least until she flops over to have her belly rubbed.


To paraphrase Nixon's "Checkers" speech, ". . . no matter what they say about her, we're going to keep her!"
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:23 PM
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12. Holiday tragedies
Every year here in Mississippi, I see on the local news at least two or three familes whose trailer burns down because their Christmas tree catches fire. Maybe we should ban Christmas down here since it causes so much loss of life and property. And I won't even start talking about the rise in alcoholism, depression, and suicides during the Thanksgiving/Christmas season.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:23 PM
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13. From a 5 year old
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 02:25 PM by nu_duer
I did my good deed for the decade last week by driving my sis (who can't drive for the time being - medical) and my 5 year old niece to the "Pumpkin Patch" field trip with her school. She attends a Christian private school, and K thru 5th grade went - about a hundred kids (definitely out of my element).

At the lunch time, as I sat at a picnic table, I tuned into the conversation a rather lound, very passionate 5 year old girl was having with a very agreeable young boy.

This little girl first caught my attention by proclaiming loudly that she does not "do Halloweeen" because it is Satan's birthday, and she will not celebrate the devil. She said on Halloween, the devil is in hell having cake. Then she was asking all the kids at that table why they wanted to celebrate Satan's birthday. Most ignored her, and she went back to talking to the little boy.

She went on about how the Indians no longer ruled America because they worshipped idols and "we" worship the true God. "What can they expect if they worship idols," she asked the boy. And she gushed for several minutes about how happy she is that she worships the real God. I got up and walked out of earshot.

Its not that she doesn't have a right to believe what she believes, she does, we all do (or should), but this was a 5 year old girl, who seemed completely defined by what she has been "taught." She's 5! How could she possibly even begin to grasp the concepts about which she is preachng? She sounded like a brainwashed droid who's record was skipping. It saddened me.

I asked my sister why she would want her child in a shcool that brainwashes children, and she said that most of that attitude came from the little girl's home. I suspect she's right there, and parents have every right to teach their children what they will. But I feel sorry for the girl.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:53 PM
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18. for those looking for a truer history of the holiday
Here are a couple of my favorites!
Halloween: Myths, Monsters and Devils

and from a more German perspective:
Origins of Halloween
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