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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:02 AM
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just how much to you value Al Sharpton in this race?
she-bear and i have yet to donate to a candidate because we want to have at least 2000 ready to donate in the general. we don't have a lot of extra money and that plan may go awry if out transmission doesn't hold together for another year but we did just give something to Al.

we love his passion? do you?
we love his commitment? do you?
we love his one liners? do you?

we have contributed to keep him in the race. will you?

http://www.al2004.org/contribute.htm

you can use paypal...doesn't get any easier!

please kick if you think Al is getting it done for us!
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:03 AM
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1. He's been great
And I love the fact that he's going around and registering new voters.
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skjpm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:11 AM
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2. I hope he gets a place in the cabinet
I don't think he's electable, but he's a great guy. I think he's bringing himself to the country's attention so that he can get a job in the next administration, which he deserves.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:14 AM
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3. 'going around' costs money
at the very least, we need to keep him able to continue the registration drive.
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DealsGapRider Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:14 AM
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4. Not at all. I don't consider him a good man.
And I think he's only in this race to boost his own standing within the Dem power establishment.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:33 AM
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8. I agree...
He IS in this to boost his standing in the next Dem administration, much as I've thought about CMB too.

That said, I couldn't be happier that Al and Carol ARE in the race. Many, many voters will remember Al's zingers at Bush. And many people will recognize that the Dem party IS the Big Tent that allowed he and she to participate.

Now... if we could just get Lieberman to give it up...
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:27 PM
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16. Given their poor performance in defending the rights of black voters
in FLA, Sharpton has been a gift to the Dems.

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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:28 PM
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17. Agreed, Carol too...n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:36 PM
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26. what she said
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:18 AM
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5. I have too
I gave to Al when he said the "I" word on Foxnews. I'm committed to my candidate now and the DNC, but I definitely think giving to Al, Dennis or Carol is a good idea if you want their voice to stay in this thing.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:22 AM
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6. i sent money to many of them.....send your $ to Sharpton he earned it imho
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:28 AM
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7. kick
nt
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:35 AM
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9. I think he's the only candidate who thinks he has nothing to lose
and that makes him a powerhouse when it comes to stumping against the misadministration. I love to hear Al speak. I wish he was viewed as a more credible candidate. I want him to stick around as long as he can afford to, just to keep the other candidates from sliding too far to the right. He's a wonderful foil to the other candidates as well as the pukes and a shameless promoter of Dem values.

Go Al!
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:53 AM
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10. I don't value Sharpton
because of Tawana Brawley.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:50 PM
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19. Can you elaborate?
I did a quick google of TB and the story and it's pretty much as I remember it. TB made up the story BEFORE Al(and others) became involved when they believed her story and thought they could do something about a pending miscarriage of justice. So in the end it leaves me with the impression Al came to help a 15 year old girl whom he believed, and many others did, was brutally treated. Al definitely sensationalized the case, but what course of action would you do if you BELIEVED an injustice on that scale was being neglected? In the end the apparent hoax did damage Al's credibility, but if you are going to take one episode out of a person's career and broadly paint them with that tiny brush, who will you have to vote for?

fob

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:28 PM
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21. Don't you get it?
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 07:30 PM by Q
- Some people just don't like those 'uppity' Blacks. Others don't want to see any kind of strong leadership in the Black community.

- Sharpton is an activist. They don't get attention by asking pretty please to a media that has no interest in race relations.

- Some people are racist and aren't even aware of it.

- I will gladly donate to Sharpton...if for no other reason than he brings up issues other Dems are afraid to even mention.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:40 PM
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23. I can see you excoriating Brawley
for telling lies and sucking in some well meaning folks because what she claimed happened is an all too common ocurrance.Black women have been subjected to such rapes for generation upon generation you know.
Brawley, now 25 and called Maryam Muhammad, continues to insist that her charges are true.

So ,in a short, terse and dismissive sentence you sum up a complex issue and condemn someone with whom you disagree politically......Perhaps you might grace us all with some pearls of your wisdom as to why Sharpton receives such treatment from you.......

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:42 PM
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11. Sharpton Really Turned Me Off
with the Tawana Brawley thing as well as some other stuff back in that era. I felt he was a self-promoter with nothing to recommend him.

Listening to him in the debates, though, I have forgiven him. I still don't think he'd make the best president, but his outbursts energize me and send me into gales of laughter. You've got to hand it to him.

Like his comment on AS:

"Arnold got elected governor of California 'cause he was the action man in the movies.
I'VE been the action man in the MOVEMENT, and I don't need nobody else to do my stunts for me."

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:03 PM
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13. His statement that it is between the Christian right and the
right Christians was great.

I loved that he got a standing ovation last night.

I love Detroit audiences. They are rowdy. I could tell the candidates and reporters were loving it too.

A good debate. I thought Kerry did well last night. I loved Carol too. She needs to be part of the next administration. Gep is pretty good. Both Edwards and Holy Joe did good. Dean made no new impression on me. He neither hurt or helped himself. Dennis has the passion we need. Clark never blinks when he talks. That gives him the deer in the headlights look.

The second tier candidates add so much to the debate. They know they cannot win, so they are there in hope of getting a delegate or two so they can influence the course of the party. good for them.

Al has gotten people to watch the debates just to see what he has to say. I think that is a win win situation for the Dems.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:59 PM
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12. "Slap the donkey..."
...will live forever, lol. Bank.

Later.

RJS
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:17 PM
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14. At Some Point He's Taking Time From Other 'Electable' Candidates
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 01:18 PM by cryingshame
One more debate or so and I wish he'd leave the race and find another venue.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:25 PM
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15. Respectfully disagree...
See post #8.

Now HERE is someone who should leave asap:

"Joseph Lieberman adds nothing to the Democrats' chances in 2004. He does, however, take things away. In fighting to the finish and losing the nomination, he will have irreparably weakened the winner. If he wins it, he will suck out something precious: the active enthusiasm of the unwealthy that is a center-left party's only natural advantage against a party of money, the Republicans.

How many Democrats will be willing to work their hearts out for the guy single-handedly responsible, in his kid-glove non-investigation as chair of the Senate Investigations Subcommittee, for the Bush administration emerging from the Enron scandal scot-free? How many, for the man whose most enduring work in the Senate was preserving the favorite accounting dodge, the non-expensing of stock options, of disgraced high-tech companies like Enron and Worldcom?

The senator from Connecticut must withdraw. He should do it fast."

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0343/perlstein.php

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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:46 PM
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18. Sharpton and Kucinich are like the conscience of the party..
They are the best expression of those who believe this party should stand with the workers, the downtrodden, the disadvantaged, the uninsured--the people who work hard and play by the rules and get little to show for it. Thses guys have the passion and indignation that Wellstone had.

And it grieves me that they are not considered electable.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:23 PM
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20. a kick for AL
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:31 PM
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22. 1,000,000,000% agreement
Al and Dennis are the only ones keeping the other candidates "honester" than they otherwise would be. It's a shame because they are the only ones talking about the humongous *ahem* elephant in the living room that the others would just as soon ignore.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:54 PM
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24. good, thank you for supporting him
It is important to keep him and Carol M-B in the race.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:56 PM
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25. We sent Al $25
I'm not cheering for him to win, but he's the 'pit bull' we need in this race: he can and will say the things about * that need to be said in his charming, humorous and yet thoroughly biting way. :)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:43 PM
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27. A happy kick
and seeing the people who dont like him just convinces me he's even better than I already think.
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