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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 05:40 PM
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UNBELIEVABLE!!! You must view Friday's CIA testimony before
the Dem Policy Committee. It is devastating to the Bush administration. They actually ID Cheney as having gone to the agency and debating with rank analysts and intimidating them. The CIA agents were also angry about the media downplaying the outing of Wilson's wife (they didn't they were not specific about the media but I know for a fact that FOX, Rush, Hannity and their ilk were pooh pooing the incident within 24 hours of it becoming publick knowledge). I heard Rush say something like..she wasn't even a real agent some kind of low level analyst and making a big deal about the fact that Wilson contributed to the Dems. CIA agent Johnson was most offended about those assertions and he let it be known that no one complained when Wilson contributed to the Republicans and no one complained when Wilson voted for G. Bush senior. These agents are livid! If anything will bring down this Bush cabal, this single program should do it if it were aired on Clear Channel.

We must get this program shown all over the country. Anyone who taped it should make copies and send them to any place or person that you think doesn't know the facts. I would start by sending a copy to Pat Roberston's crew...even Pat was ridiculing the outing of Wilson as much ado about nothing and called Wilson a partisan operative. If you know some freepers, send them a copy of the tape. Send it to your funddie churches, O'Reily, and send one to Rush in rehab. I came in in the middle and didn't get a chance to tape it...but this is history. I going to ask C-Span to air it again. THIS IS HISTORICAL!!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 05:48 PM
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1. It is on the C-Span video site:
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Current_Event&Code=108_Cong&ShowVidNum=6&Rot_Cat_CD=108_Cong&Rot_HT=&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=


In case this link does not work, just go to C-Span.org and click the 108th Congress link.

I also used tinyURL to create this one:

http://tinyurl.com/scxp

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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 05:49 PM
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2. Don't need to read it....
Edited on Sat Oct-25-03 05:50 PM by RapidCreek
I watched it on C-SPAN.....Oddly they chose to air it at 3:30 AM. I find it somewhat telling that the "liberal" media has failed to address the Dem Pol Com meeting. I plan to try and grab this tape from CNN if they choose to make it available.

I agree with your sentiments...and HIGHLY advise those who have not seen it...to do so. This committee meeting is THE MOST DAMMING TESTAMENT YET....to the Bush Junta treason.

RC
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 05:52 PM
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4. The Meeting Was Aired Live, then Re-Run More Than Once
throughout the day.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 05:52 PM
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3. Prior thread about this hearing
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sweettater Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 05:55 PM
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5. I agree!!!!!!!!!!
Although I didn't see the beginning, I saw most of it and it was, as you said, devastating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think I even blinked the entire time. I was just blown away!!!!!! My question, how can this not take some of the upper crust down???? Upper crust, meaning the bush cabal. WOW! I have never in my entire 56 years seen anything like it!!!!!!!! :wow:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 06:00 PM
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6. this was all reported
while it was happening..i guess the democrats are figuring this out now..gee guys alittle to late to save all those people who have died on both sides. oh well, nobody cares but those who realize what has happened and right now there`s not enough to make sure we vote him out....
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 06:06 PM
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7. I taped it...
...for posterity...
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 06:09 PM
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8. I'm going to give a house party as soon as I get a copy of the tape.
We are going to serve beer, ribs, hot dogs and pop corn...but I am making all my friends who come view this tape!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 06:17 PM
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9. It was amazing to listen to this.
Wilson did the right thing by keeping a high profile. It's what's keeping his family alive at this point.

Wilson has a website now:

www.restorehonesty.com
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 10:08 PM
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15. It says at the bottom that it is paid for
by John Kerry.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 06:42 PM
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10. Larry Johnson was amazingly clear and outspoken.
He really impressed me.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 06:45 PM
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11. I listened to it and was absolutely astounded.
I now believe all the rumors that the CIA is out to get this evil cabal. And God speed to them.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 07:07 PM
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12. I don't think so...but I sure wish it were true.
they will still all vote Republican...no matter what they say.
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bandy Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 07:33 PM
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13. I must disagree. . .
something broke here and I think it was the camel's back. More to come of this for sure. If you heard or read the transcript you must know the implications of it all. We are in dire straights and * is in controll. Jeez, what a scary reality.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:34 PM
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17. CIA won't vote GOP if they think Bush is a TRAITOR.
Which is what it's looking like, more and more each day. They'll vote for honesty, integrity and loyalty...no matter the party. This treachery is one of the great stories in the history of the United States since the CIA was formed in 1947.

Bush allowed a non-official cover agent to be put in harm's way to send a political warning to whistleblowers and those unwilling to toe the White House line. In so doing, he compromised the entire WMD apparatus the agent had created. Bush also weakened the national security of the United States. It really is treason and the Little Turd from Crawford should go to prison for life, at best.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 08:12 PM
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14. Rush, Hannity, FOX news in general, Pat Robertson, and
Blitzer to a lesser degree all ridiculed this report when it came out. Novak out and out lied and insinuated that there wasn't much harm done by his reporting because Wilson's wife was not a real undercover agent...almost implied that she was a low level analyst. He was following his orders to try to smear Wilson. This entire political smear campaign...the continuing vast right wing conspiracy that Hillary talked about...is backfiring and rightly so. The CIA should really be pissed at the talk radio druggie Rush and the rest of the Clear Channel ilk. However, i think no real harm will be done to Clear Channel as they and Murdoch have made deals with the Rwing to be their propaganda machine and in some cases are used as CIA tools in this regard. But it really proves the point that politics make strange bedfellows.

There are two reasons to put Pat Roberston behind bars: his satements about bombing the State Department and his diamond dealing in Africa.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:25 PM
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16. I was screaming at the TV. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
I taped this because I want to see it again. I am totally blown away. These guys are pissed! All Repugs...and their demeanor was one of disgust, anger and humiliation. They ain't giving up folks. This could get really messy and I LOVE it!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:13 AM
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18. kicking
:kick:

I don't know what else to say for a change.

Rah rah rah.

I can't believe that this hasn't already brought down the administration.

Where is the media? Why isn't this videotape the lead story on every news show? Why why why whywhywhywhy?

I get sick of asking WHY?
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 08:18 AM
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24. Thanks for the kick!!
We need to kick some more with e-mails to media outlets and post on freeper message boarads...including AOL!
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:59 AM
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19. The dems are finding a voice
The seriousness of this matter can no longer be denied or trivialized. :bounce:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:09 AM
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20. Devastating
They are so pissed off from the betrayal
of the sacred trust .
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 05:33 AM
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21. I got to see it at
5:20 p.m. on C-Span yesterday. I was so happy to see it repeated again. I, too, just sat there glued to the TV. This was just amazing. Actually hearing the sound of "truth". And if you caught glimpses of the Senators seated at that table, they were as spellbound as we were. I hope Senator Rockefeller has something to say about this on Meet the Press this morning.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:10 AM
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22. implications are more damaging
Larry Johnson, one of the ex-agents to testify, noted that manipulation or "selective briefing" was not just occuring in the whistleass mis-adminitration.

Moreover, he implied it's a political "standard" mode of operation

With the "LEAK" out in the news, and now WMD's found - the whistleass Inc., in their arrogance have "blown the cover" on how intelligence information is really processed at the top levels.

In attempting to damage the CIA credibility, the whistleass mis-administration has also damaged their own credibility. If the CIA was and is being pressured to "filter" and "cherry-pick" intelligence, and the white house then manipulated that intelligence - then how much of it can we believe and trust?

How accurate is the information that we are being fed? And what does that do to our confidence in government? Can we believe future "terra-lerts"?

The Pentagon Papers shook our confidence. Nixon and Watergate shook our confidence. Iran-Contra shook our confidence. But, to the "regular american", it appeared to be limited to just particular presidencies.

This new information indicates that we've been lied to all along - by many administrations. Not only has our "trust" in the current administration been shaken - but also that trust in our entire government going back years and years.

I fear that our country's greatest threat is not from outside forces, but from inside corruption. Our country is rotting from within.





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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 08:08 AM
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23. thank you for posting
and to those posting links. I am listening now.

Julie
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 09:06 AM
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25. The most damaging aspect of this I've heard soo far,,
Sen. Jay Rockefeller in his opening remarks commented on how the leak from the White House had the potential to hurt recruting efforts by CIA agents......

I say the damage has already been done.

Good luck trying to find an agent in foreign countries to do the dirty work for the US. What guarantees do they have now that they won't be inadvertantly exposed because of some political issue in the US?

They have none and there is nothing that can be done to repair that damage.

The genie is already out of the bottle.
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