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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:13 PM
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Holy Jeeze! Did anyone just see MSNBC Countdown with John Loftus?
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 07:14 PM by Armstead
Had John Loftus on talking about that defense Dept. consultant who was arrested for ties to terrorism.

keith Olberman asked how this guy could have gotten so high up and Loftus let it rip. Said he was a client of Grover Norquist wjo is best friends with Karl Rove, and was protected because of ties to Saudis. Loftus mentioned otehr ties between right-wingers here and right-wong Muslims.

For a few brief moments there was the sound of cats getting out of the bag.
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lefty_mcduff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:16 PM
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1. Caught it! Still picking jaw up from floor...
...ties to Rove and the Whitehouse. Investigations of terrorists with Saudi connections being thwarted by people 'at the highest level'. If I was him, no trips on small planes...

A MUST viewing on tonight's re-run.


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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:16 PM
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2. I saw it!!!!
Olberman -- "this story sends chills down your spine"
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:17 PM
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3. Yes, it was a shocker. Norquist and Rove.
Best buds.

Here is John's website.
http://www.john-loftus.com/default.asp
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:18 PM
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4. I literally ran up the stairs to my computer
to see if there was a thread started about this. I don't know who this John Loftus dude is, but Jeez! If THIS doesn't wake people up to the evilness of the BFEE I will roll over and leave.

Connect the dots...
Funding of Terrorists...Grover Norquist...Karl Rove...G W Bush
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:21 PM
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6. Toss in Rev. Sun Myung Moon....
and you've got a really pretty picture of who the right wing is allied with.

Oh if only the average, patriotic conservatives who follow these people could only learn who is propping up their political movement.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:20 PM
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5. Check out this thread
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:22 PM
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7. What did * say?
Terrorists and those who support them? Some line that was meant to refer to the Taliban.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:23 PM
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8. Isn't Grover boy the one who arrogantly bragged they had it all in place?
Didn't he say they had it all in place to be in control of the government for many years? It was on some TV interview. That arrogant you know what!
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:23 PM
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9. Loftus has been around a while...
...provides for some interesting reading. There's a definate skew to his viewpoint, but he's been fairly solid with some of his points.

www.john-loftus.com is his website
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:32 PM
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10. Meowwwwwww. lots of cats :)
Now watch the netowrks scramble to "cover" it....not!





ABC..........................CBS.......................NBC
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:42 PM
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11. Well maybe since this ties in with turism
maybe it will become too high profile for even CNN to ignore.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:40 PM
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16. turism? What's turism?
Sorry....don't get what you mean.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:45 PM
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21. think of the sound
and think of it coming out of GW's mouth
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:18 PM
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12. This Deserve Serious Notice
"LET'S GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:20 PM
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13. How long has this been known?
Here is something else from February. Don't know the site.
This Norquist is connected with the College Republican group, as well.

This was brewing back in February or earlier. Talk about the truthful press!
http://www.citizensoldier.org/norquist.html
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:37 PM
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14. "Snellius" has an active post here on DU about Norquist and unsavory ties
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 08:38 PM by KoKo01
to the Wahabi's and terrorists.......Hmmm.......this sounds like a "tie in." Snellius said something was brewing with Norquist that was "too hot" for Networks to handle.

Sounds like Loftus just did.....although not seeing it and not quite understanding your post...it's hard for me to see what it is.

But, scan for "Snellius" post here.....sorry I can't cough it up!......

On edit: it was posted earlier here.....Snellius's post:

Again:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=581304
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:14 PM
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19. This is the same story. I also heard the Loftus interview.
It caught me so much by surprise that I still don't have the story completely straight. All I could find on Google was some loose threads tied to it. The problem concerns how did those chaplains and translators at Gitmo, who turned out to be spys, evidently able to steal CIA interrogation logs and plans, get recruited for such a sensitive position. Turns out they were recruited by Abdurahman Alamoudi, the head of a Arab terrorist front organization, who was recommended to Karl Rove by his "best friend" Grover Norquist.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:24 AM
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26. Thanks, this gives a better connection: the chaplains at Gitmo, tying
back to Norquist. There's alot there. And, a trail of breadcrumbs leading back to the source.

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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:38 PM
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15. Loftus is the man
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 08:43 PM by slaveplanet
he is behind the operation "Green quest" raids. shut down because they lead to saudi funding of wahabi terrorist attacks on Israel. nothing to see here...move along

April 22, 2003: FTR 406: Interview w/John Loftus | Listen

www.wfmu.org/playlists/dx

use real player-scroll to FTR 406 -1 hr.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:42 PM
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17. Here's a quick bio of Loftus for those who don't know what the hell's goin
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 08:43 PM by KoKo01
on!

"As a former Justice Department prosecutor, John Loftus once held some of the highest security
clearances in the world, with special access to NATO Cosmic, CIA codeword, and Top Secret
Nuclear files. As a private attorney, he works without charge to help hundreds of intelligence
agents obtain lawful permission to declassify and publish the hidden secrets of our times. He is the
author of four history books, three of which have been made into films, two were international
best sellers, and one was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize.



John's nightly comments on current events, "The Loftus Report" can be heard on ABC National
Radio, the Batchelor and Alexander Show at 10:35 EST each weeknight. Internet access obtained
through WABCRadio.com "

Check out the website....this guy's no :tinfoilhat:

http://www.john-loftus.com/
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:45 PM
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18. Keith Olbermann replay is at Midnight ET
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:29 PM
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20. Wonk!
I hope you have this. :)
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:00 AM
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22. kick
nt
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:23 AM
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23. Whoa! kick...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:09 AM
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24. Kick......what happened to this story overnight?
:shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:19 AM
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25. Transcript of show not up yet, article only tells half story.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/msnbctranscriptsmain_front.asp

Will keep checking for transcript here, something to send around to wake the media up from their snoozing.

I notice the front page story only tells a small portion of the story.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:28 AM
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27. trying to keep this kicked until transcript is out or new info.
:kick:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:34 AM
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29. Let me throw in a kick.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:33 AM
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28. Holy. Crap.
Wow... can't believe I missed that... nothing appearing on the wires yet, but this is indeed, spine-chilling.

Olbermann has really been amazing lately...
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lefty_mcduff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:36 AM
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30. Kick. Gotta keep this one alive.....
n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:27 AM
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31. Transcript up!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:08 PM
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32. kick
k
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