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midnitemoleman Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 05:52 PM
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Mysterious Diseases Haunt U.S. Troops In Iraq
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2003-07/17/article03.shtml

The military source reported a media blackout by U.S. officials to hide such information from the public.

The Americans claim the symptoms and the mysterious diseases were resulting from exposure to the scourging sun, which the U.S. troops are not used to, he added.

U.S. officials did not come up with an explanation for the symptoms, which NATO experts tend to believe result from direct exposure to powerful nuclear radiations of the sophisticated B-2 bombs used in the war on Iraq, particularly in striking Iraqi Republican Guards forces who deployed to defend the vicinity of Baghdad airport

more...http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2003-07/17/article03.shtml

******THANKS AGAIN MR. BUSH;IT WILL BE A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU LEAVE****
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:02 PM
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1. Well at least its not venereal disease
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:05 PM
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2. that is not funny
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:10 PM
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5. I don't think the poster meant that it was "funny"...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:09 PM
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3. I think that is the saddest freakin' thing...."the media blackout"
reported by a "Military scource". How could you live with yourself if you were in the media and you knew this info but kept it quiet for fear of losing your job?

Our Soldiers are dying and we're the only ones who cared about them in the first, second and third place! :grr:

And we were accused of being traitors. We are dealing with Traitors!

That's what we're up against!

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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:09 PM
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4. The depleted uranium on the artillery shells could be the problem.
However, no one will admit to it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:12 PM
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6. Exactly! They will have many of those "sicknessness"....
and it will be like "Agent Orange" and "Gulf War Syndrome" all over again! :grr: :nuke: :skull:
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:15 PM
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7. THEY STILL HAVEN'T ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY IN KOSOVO
Edited on Thu Jul-17-03 06:15 PM by Capn Sunshine
There were massive cancer clusters and stillbirths, deformities...vVA reports of skin illnesses and cancers from du....not a peep from our "in bedded" media
:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:
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Dimsdale Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:59 PM
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20. The stuff is still radioactive..
is it not? It's in the sand, the air, it's spread around by the wind.. It's my guess that the international outrage over our use of DU shells far exceeds that portrayed by the press here. Wait, is it portrayed at all by the press here?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:17 PM
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8. And let us NOT forget-
THE VACCINES!!!
Combine those with the DU and if it were a fair
and just world, we could get rid of the bastards
on these two points alone.
BHN
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:24 PM
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9. High levels of uranium contamination were found in Afghanistan
Check out www.umrc.net

They're the non-profit research group Uranium Medical Research Centre. They've recenty run some test for depleted uranium contamination in Afghanistan. What they found surprised them. They found lots of non-depleted uranium contamination centred around areas that saw action in the recent US led Operation Enduring Freedom. They haven't issued a final report yet, but they claim preliminary indications point to the development of new warheads by the US using non-depleted uranium instead of or in addition to the traditional DU warheads. These non-DU type warheads appear to spread around uranium pollution even more profusely than the older DU type weapons. If they were using these types of weapons in Afghanistan, it is quite likely they would also have used them in Iraq as well.


More info available at their web site www.umrc.net

Summary of recent findings as released by UMRC International Director of Research, May 21, on Without Borders, Al Jazeera Broadcasting<1>

UMRC’s recent findings, May 2003, reveal a wider scope of human and environmental contamination in Afghan civilians, corroborating the November 2002 Jalalabad findings.

Jalalabad area: New reference levels based on recent collections of samples and controls have revised the Jalalabad results upward to uranium values 45 X’s normal.

New bioassay studies identify uranium internal contamination in Spin Gar (Tora Bora) area and the City of Kabul are up to 200 X’s the Reference Level of the unexposed population.

Surface water, rice fields and catch-basins adjacent to and surrounding the bombsites have high values of uranium, up to 27 X’s normal.


Low but as yet inconclusive readings of U236 have been identified by the laboratory in some urine samples; further analysis is underway to determine the metallurgical origins of the uranium with a consideration of “commercial natural uranium” containing recycled reactor spent fuel products.

Analyses of soils and debris collected inside OEF bomb craters and target sites have uranium values 3 X’s to 6 X’s normal.

Surface soils surrounding the bombsites and downwind from ground-zero are elevated close to 3 X’s reference levels.

Field and laboratory data show that samples with elevated uranium levels, civilian health problems, and weapons exposure histories correspond spatially and chronologically to ordnance deployed by Operation Enduring Freedom.


Here's an excerpt from their preliminary write up of the Afghanstan findings.

Radiological measurements of the uranium concentrations in Afghan civilians’ urine samples indicate abnormally high levels of non-depleted uranium. Radiological measurements of Afghan civilians’ have high concentrations of uranium in a range beginning at 4 X’s and reaching to over 20 X’s normal populations. This is 400% to 2000% higher than the study controls and normal population baselines of the concentrations of nanograms of uranium per liter of urine in a 24-hour sample. UMRC has completed initial but still preliminary studies that corroborate these finding in biological controls and geological samples taken in Operation Enduring Freedom bombsites.


<snip>

With the exception of Natural Uranium, alternative explanations are attributable to radio-isotopic signatures (ratios of isotopes of uranium) not substantiated by the laboratory results of Afghan civilians and bombsites. The isotopic measurements are objectively reliable and cannot be misrepresented other than by intentional adulteration of the specimens or intentional efforts to contaminate the population to mask the origins of contamination. Notably, the results of the analysis of biological specimens (urine) and the bomb-crater samples are compatible.

The possibility of Natural Uranium remains under investigation. Local geological samples and controls do not substantiate a source other than the OEF bombing. There are no geological, commercial and agricultural phenomena or activities and uses in the environs of the contaminated populations that might explain the contamination. UMRC invites reasonable explanations and continues to investigate alternatives or evidence that might explain origins other than uranium-alloyed and composite uranium-high-explosive ordnance deployed by Operation Enduring Freedom.

(my emphasis /jc)

Above excerpt taken from:
http://www.umrc.net/AfghanistanOEF.asp


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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:32 PM
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10. I was wrong a couple days ago, I said U235, but its 236
Still I was right it is NOT depleted which I believe is way toxic and

far too radioactive anyway
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:44 PM
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11. Hey DU reader!
This is that which you told me, PM?

Sounds like un-depleted U238. Perhps the ordnance was not

'pure' un-depleted uranium. It does not sound like the results of Nuclear Fission.

I believe fission leaves unmistakeable residues? Alpha, Beta? Radioactive bomb components?

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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:49 PM
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12. Yeah, what is "composite-uranium high explosive ordinance" anyway?
High explosive?
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:56 PM
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14. I will go look
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:08 PM
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16. A quick google (composite uranium ordnance)
suggests it is a depleted uranium anti tank weapon which contains

a base fused/fired shape charge designed to penetrate the tank armor with a glob of

molten U238. Ouch!

Over kill!

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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:12 PM
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18. That wouldn't explain the U236
Maybe they bunker-busted a uranium mine, one suggestion was naturally

occuring U.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:11 PM
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22. Depleted Uranium
is a darned misleading term. It could still contain U236.

Google ' depleted uranium a tragedy of the commons'

Good info!

Ed
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ward919 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:56 PM
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13. "IF IT IS TO BE, IT'S UP TO ME!!!"
It's up to us to get the word out. Making flyers for the supermarket as I type.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:03 PM
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15. These are not "mysterious" diseases
They ae the result of exposure to environmental toxins and untested vaccines.

"The more we do to you, the less you believe we are doing it."

Somebody name the author of that quote.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:10 PM
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17. Was it some Fascist? or Orwell?
?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:49 PM
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19. they really getting sick from eating the same goddamn food everyday
And somebody is making a fortune selling the Gov't those MREs and the longer the boys gatta eat this shit the more profits that Co makes. I wonder if the Compnay is on Bushes contribution LIST..?

The BOYS want real food, cold air, cold water, cold showers, and a safe bed to sleep in, Then they want a freaking date of departure. Goodness, you think they be asking for the damn moon or sumpthin.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:46 PM
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21. They better be hoping that's all it is. n/t
n/t
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:09 PM
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23. Halliburton supplies their MRE's
surprise!
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