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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:56 PM
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Crap from the Right
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Are Democrats Patriotic?
December 23, 2005 08:06 AM EST
by Guy Adams - George Washington wrote to some leaders in 1776: "When the civil and military powers cooperate, and afford mutual aid to each other, there can be little doubt of things going well."

Most modern Democrats sweep aside his example, to their detriment, along with the country's. They'd rather castigate and humiliate Bush and lose the war in Iraq, in order to further their own selfish political desires. In my view, such behavior is simply traitorous.

Note that this is not an inspirational article--it is an informational one. I have not seen a comprehensive listing of the liberal Democrats' hurtful anti-war or anti-Bush remarks, so I decided to create one. Hopefully, this will help you decide who not to vote for in the next Senatorial and Congressional elections, and possibly in the next Presidential election as well. So in a sense, this is a voter's guide for the future.

Let me pose a question: are modern liberal Democrats patriotic? Most are, yes, but enough of the leading ones are not. Let me explain.

More

I'm sick of these assholes
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:04 PM
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1. Did he just call every Dem in the senate a traitor?
What a jackass.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:04 PM
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2. Please, would another conservative motherfucker question my patriotism
24 years in uniform, supporting and defending the constitution. I want the constitution protected, that's my selfish agenda. And please conservatives share a voters guide with me; I'll be early in line at the polls to cancel your vote.

An easier question to answer - Are "conservatives" ignorant blind lemmings, believing what they are told the believe, voting how they are told to vote?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 11:11 PM
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12. I'm really tired of it too
I didn't spend any time in uniform, but that doesn't mean that I don't want the best for my country, and that I don't wnat my country to be the best it can be.
Repugs don't know the difference between patriotism and sucking up.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:11 PM
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3. I don't get: Adams says some negative things about John Kerry, but
Kerry isn't on his list of traitors . . . ?
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:13 PM
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4. Excerpt: "This is no longer the party of FDR or JFK"
And I think "The party of Reagan" has been hi-jacked by right wing jingoistic warmongers.

In the "informational" article he seems to equate love of Bush with patriotism. Therefore (I assume), Bush IS America.

Maybe schoolchildren should salute his portrait daily and pledge allegiance, or maybe that's coming next year.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:14 PM
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5. Bush is doing a good job losing in Iraq without our help
Last I checked, it wasn't the 'whacko left wing' that ordered the torture of prisoners at Abu Gharib and Gitmo. Last I checked, the 'traitors' on the left weren't the ones who ordered chemical weapons (make no mistake, that's exactly what WP is) used against civlians in Fallujah.

Nope, ole Bushie seems to be doing a pretty good job screwing this one up by himself.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:18 PM
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6. Guy Adams needs to pull his head out of his ass
Washington also said "Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism". I think that quote is self explanatory.

I really can't think of any more to say on that "article". I could barely get through it because it was written like shit.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:22 PM
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7. Let's look at Teddy Roosevelt, shall we?
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

Yeah, he was a real treasonous bastard.

Or how about good old Edward R. Murrow?

"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it."

He was a bastard, too. Yeah. :eyes:

:crazy:<------------------------RW hate- and warmongerers.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:25 PM
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8. This guy is di\delusional
How dare he. That son of a bitch.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:29 PM
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9. We should really compile every remark by Repigs during
any type of maneuver by Clinton . . .

When making an "unpatriotic" statement, we should also quote the reference - like this one: "My first act as President, when my hand comes off the Bible, will be to withdraw American troops from Bosnia!" - Phil Gramm, 2/4/1996.
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:32 PM
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10. Limbaugh's been working this for years.
And it's working.
The demonization of liberals is the point of being actually believed by the majority of Americans.

Are you really proud to be a democrat...or just a bit nervous about it?

It's in the workplace.
It's everywhere.
It's the notion that to be strong means walking over anything and everything to get there.

I have a friend that came to me hoping to get help from the Union and said that his boss was on him to the point where he didn't even want to come to work. I loved this though....he said that his boss said he wasn't enough of an ASSHOLE to do the job right. He didn't want a nice guy...he wanted an asshole...and if he wasn't willing to be one...well he'd go some other place and find one.

In order to turn this whole thing around....we have to take on this corporate asshole mentality ....and make it clear why we should be proud to be Americans.....responsible....proud.... democratic Americans.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 03:11 PM
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11. AAR is the antidote to this nonsense
help spread AAR to more towns. I see no stations in alaba,a and mississippi.... did i miss any other vacant states?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 11:30 PM
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13. "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." (Samuel Johnson)
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 11:31 PM by Straight Shooter
Of whom was Johnson speaking when he said this? Here is a very interesting article if one cares to delve further into this quote.

http://www.samueljohnson.com/qotw02q2.html#0630

<snip>

A further argument that Johnson felt Burke a manipulative scoundrel comes from Boswell. Burke is a topic of discussion following the "last refuge" remark, and about Burke, Johnson says, "Sir, I do not say that he is not honest; but we have no reason to conclude from his political conduct that he is honest." And on another occasion, Johnson said of him, "In private life he is a very honest gentleman; but I will not allow him to be so in publick life. People may be honest, though they are doing wrong; that is between their Maker and them. But we, who are suffering by their pernicious conduct, are to destroy them. We are sure that (Burke) acts from interest. We know what his genuine principles were. They who allow their passions to confound the distinctions between right and wrong, are criminal. They may be convinced; but they have not come honestly by their conviction."

Was there ever a more noble speaker than Samuel Johnson? I think not.
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