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yknot Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:57 PM
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Time to Wag The Dog? (Iran rumors)
Allegations, investigations, indictments, prosecutions, convictions... If these guys ever needed to "shift the focus" now is the time. For those of us who feel nothing is beyond this administration, these are scary days. What your guess for BushCo's next move?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:01 PM
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1. It's interesting
Because the heat has been increasing for nearly a year now; and on a regular basis we have someone saying "This administration is capable of anything to change the subject; so these are scary times. What do you think they will do?"

Of course it is inconcievable that nothing will ever come along to change the subject; so I look forward to that eventually.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:11 PM
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2. from what I've been reading
Israel is planning to bomb the nuke facilities.
More specifically Israeli military sources reveal that Israel's current and probably next Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ordered Israel's armed forces to prepare for air strikes on uranium enrichment sites in Iran According to the London Times the order to prepare for attack went through the Israeli defense ministry to the Chief of Staff. During the first week in December, "sources inside the special forces command confirmed that 'G' readiness ­ the highest state ­ for an operation was announced" (Times, December 11, 2005).

On December 9, Israeli Minister of Defense, Shaul Mofaz, affirmed that in view of Teheran's nuclear plans, Tel Aviv should "not count on diplomatic negotiations but prepare other solutions". In early December, Ahron Zoevi Farkash, the Israeli military intelligence chief told the Israeli parliament (Knesset) that "if by the end of March, the international community is unable to refer the Iranian issue to the United Nations Security Council, then we can say that the international effort has run its course".

In other words, if international diplomatic negotiations fail to comply with Israel's timetable, Israel will unilaterally, militarily attack Iran. Benjamin Netanyahu, leader of the Likud Party and candidate for Prime Minister, stated that if Sharon did not act against Iran, "then when I form the new Israeli government (after the March 2006 elections) we'll do what we did in the past against Saddam's reactor." In June 1981 Israel bombed the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq.

Even the pro-Labor newspaper, Haaretz, while disagreeing with the time and place of Netanyahu's pronouncements, agreed with its substance. Haaretz criticized "(those who) publicly recommend an Israeli military option" because it "presents Israel as pushing (via powerful pro-Israel organizations in the US) the United States into a major war." However, Haaretz adds "Israel must go about making its preparations quietly and securely ­ not at election rallies." (Haaretz, December 6, 2005). Haaretz's position, like that of the Labor Party, is that Israel not advocate war against Iran before multi-lateral negotiations are over and the International Atomic Energy Agency makes a decision.


more....http://www.uruknet.com/?p=18965&hd=0&size=1&l=x

I don't know if this source is reliable but I found another article that sounds to me like it corroborates the first story

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/24/AR2005122400636.html
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:33 PM
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4. Yes, Israel will do the dirty work. But who is going to back them up? US!
And why are they picking the month that Iran is going forward with it's oil bourse? This little think right here will sink our economy. And why is the US sending people to the Middle East to tell them about the bombings? Just this week Goss I think it was went to Turkey with papers showing how bad Iran is and how we have to do something. Israel is not out there alone.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 02:40 PM
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6. Now if we mess with Iran, we are messing with Russia too.
This will get ugly if it happens, and there's no reason to think it won't. We're getting the my missles are better than your missles now, the stand off has begun. God help us all if George Bush gets his hands on another war.....get him impeached now.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 02:44 PM
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7. and China..if you read Will Pitt's post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5689821&mesg_id=5689821

Maybe a huge distraction ONLY to keep us unfocused on the here and now scandals.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 02:51 PM
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8. Oh I think they are trying to talk about anything but the current scandal.
But the war president can't get off the wars. Now he's going to arm India and Pakistan with more US goodies. It's like the line in the sand is being drawn and the big three (US, Russia,China) are getting their teams together. If Russia and China hook up, we're chickenfeed. The populations alone, to put into armies, will put us at a huge disadvantage. So the nukes will come into play and we're toast from one pole to the other.

I always said, if the bastards in charge want to play war, then put them in a ring and let the big shots go at it. We can stand on the sidelines and make bets. Beats the hell out of getting thousands of troops killed for an old man's ego.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:26 PM
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3. Bushco's next move?
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 01:30 PM by TheDebbieDee
A small scale "terrorist" attack somewhere in the US to rattle our cages and whip * supporters into a frezy with pleas for the administration to trample even more of our civil rights in a continuing effort to "protect" us.

Either that or paying Osama Bin Laden to release another tape to scare Americans into voting for the repukes.

Hey, they gotta do something to establish a meme for the 2006 elections!


ETA: Maybe this is it! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2007134
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:37 PM
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5. BushCo is so entrenched now I would
put nothing past them. The "leakage" about domestic spying has been covered, and there will be "hearings" about it next year. NEXT YEAR?? They should have started proceedings the very day it came out! We must wait until the holidays are over before Justice raises it's head? There is no justice. "Terra alerts" will be coming fast and furious.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:18 PM
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9. Whatever happened to...
...the terror threat level rainbow? Don't think I've seen that sucker at all in the 2nd term. Did it become too obvious as a distraction?

Oh, wait, I've got it. We don't need it anymore, because America is safer.
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