Wow! hippies destroyed america because they are selfish

[donsu]

this is what a caller said on Wash. Journal this morning. and on other mornings I've heard the same thing. what is it with people who hate 'hippies'? you don't see hippie bashing in the TV, newspaper media. I don't listen to radio or go to church, so is that where they are getting the hate hippie message? what the hell kind of power do they think hippies have?

other callers said baby boomers should pay their own way with no SS or medicare/caid. another said SS was a ponzi scheme. are they getting this crap from Rush?

and in the last mo. or so callers are saying we should all get along, not to diss the pres., love one another, ad nauseum. callers didn't used to say this.

where is all this kool aide coming from? right-wing radio? churches? how can we counteract this?

can we have a little discussion.

[bluerum]

1. Get a life. Who cares what these phonies say. You know they

are shills for the local corporate repukes - organized by the stations to call in this crap.

Why do people suck up the msm like it actually means anything?

I am so sick of these msm empty suits and talking heads - they spew only the party and corporate lines. Has this not sunk in yet!?! It is gibberish! It is hogwash! It is mass hypnosis! Do you think that seeing something on television or hearing it on the radio makes it "more real?" Leave it behind - for your own good. Counteract it by getting up and do something FOR the dems or the political activist group of your choice. Thats real.

Sorry if that seems a bit harsh - but I don't take RW pond scum puking points seriously.

on edit - sp and grammar.

[oneighty]

32. You just responded

to a very active senior citizen -- one who stands alone without fear on street corners holding protest signs for all to see.

Such courage is rare.

Just so you know.

Welcome to DU.

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[bluerum]

38. My apologies if I offended - and my thanks for your efforts and the

effort of others. Sadly, I cannot give quarter to the RW puking points.

on edit:

I have become very cynical toward the purveyers of RW rhetoric. Once you put energy into responding to RW provocations, it is gone. Let the RW waste resources in trying provoke wasted effort and diversionary actions. That is a business that they know all too well.

BTW - I am 50+ and consider myself part of the hippie era. But getting sucked into feeling like there is something to defend there is not my idea of energy well spent.

[oneighty]

41. Oh you are okay

and could not be expected to know Donsu--and the efforts I mentioned are Donsu's not mine.

I am seventy plus and a Korean war veteran and very much anti-war.

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[bluerum]

45. Well sir, you and Donsu have my gratitude. n/t

[tularetom]

2. I knew it! I knew it!

It's them fuckin hippies causing all these problems.

Seriously though although I didn't hear the caller and I haven't seen a hippie in 20 years, these are people who hate the '60's because that was a time when a lot of people woke up and stopped believing the bullshit that politicians of both parties fed us.

Too friggin bad but the culture wars of the '60's are over and THE HIPPIES WON.

[0007]

3. You'll never see or heard of a hippy doing the Ted Kaczynski

or Eric Rudolph thing, of blowing up people. I doubt seriously that most people of today even understands what the hippy movement was all about.

This women just got the right to vote in 1922 and is still getting screwed on equal rights and she's bashing without even knowing she is being used like a ten cent whore.

[central scrutinizer]

4. No, it's the fault of the beatniks

They started it all - those bongos were pounding out subliminal sub-sonic brainwashing rays. They started the whole godless coffeeshop worship cult and don't get me started about the sedition of the "open-mike" poetry nights.

[donsu]

6. :) those days were fun

nt

[oneighty]

34. Those were the days

my friend we thought they'd never end.

Hey Donsu

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[Gregorian]

17. That's right. Bongos destroyed America!

Outlaw poetry and bongos.

edit- Daddio.

[GrumpyGreg]

21. Aaaahh,the beatnicks! That is my generation. Cool,cool,cool !

[TallahasseeGrannie]

40. Nope

You're wrong. It was the FLAPPERS. Women cut their hair, took off their bras and wore short skirts. And they did the Charleston.

They are the ones.

[tsuki]

47. I always thought that

the beatnik generation was that red, pinko, commie generation that McCarthy was after.

:evilgrin:

[guru_5685]

5. not rush

PAT ROBERTSON - biggest nut job on the tree

[donsu]

8. so this kool aide is from him and his. we all need to bone up on

de-culting the charmed.

[joannc]

7. I'm a old hippy from Ca. during the 60s

By speaking out and not backing off we brought awareness about Nam war and by speaking out we helped stop the war in Nam and got our troops home...that's what they fear...we will do it again...we will keep speaking out until the rest of the public get a clue and start asking questions and looking for answers to all this crazy stuff.I remember the day that many who thought I was crazy... ended up standing beside the rest of us...shouting Bring Them Home.I believe that is why the media hasn't reported about the anti war movement...it may catch on if the public saw people speaking out and they could hear the points the people are making.Look how fast we are hearing more and more about impeachment,once it get aired for the public to hear,it starts becoming a topic many start talking about.

[donsu]

10. thank you

nt

[Greyhound]

9. The real hippies are pretty much the same, with nicer clothes and shorter

or no hair. It is the "day trippers" that turned the movement into a fad, then after they didn't have to worry about being drafted, discovered cocaine and disco, and became raygun re:puke:s.

[joannc]

11. Still have long hair at 61

still wearing jeans and long skirts,nothing much has changed through the years except I do not do the drugs I did back then.

[Greyhound]

31. GFY! You and my Dad are among the last. I admire your independence

I wish there were more of you in your generation. Peace.

[laylah]

52. Me, too, Joan!

I am 54 with salt and pepper hair past my waist. I, too, wear jeans and longs skirts. I even found my deerskin braid holders not long ago so wore them to work at my Republican infested place of employment. Boy, howdy, was that a hoot!

As for the bottom feeder blaming the hippies, I wonder what HE was doing during Viet Nam?

If only our chant of "Make love, not war" would be the meme of the 21st Century. :hippie:

Jenn

[donsu]

12. there was always dancing back then

there is always dancing.

Ellen opens her show with dancing. her audience dances. they are having dance contests on reality TV. ads on TV sell things with dancing.

can this be a fighting back idea?

[yknot]

13. Fucking hippies! Who's holding? n/t

[donsu]

16. LOL

nt

[Jim__]

14. And what? Corporations built Ameica because they're altruistic?

[Gregorian]

15. I was just laughing to myself about that the other day.

Those filthy hippies destroyed this country. Their beads. Their flowers. Their love-ins. Their peace signs.

Damn those hippies!


But I was joking. And they're not. Now that is sad. Fat lumps of hate, sitting on their couches, watching Fox, living 40 years in the past, and needing something to hate and blame. Too bad they're so stupid. Get with it people! You have a fascist running the show now. Those hippies are long gone. And clean up your couch, damnit! :)

[donsu]

18. we ain't gone

nt

[Gregorian]

24. Not in San Francisco.

I'm searching for a place where people are still people. I'm failing. I grew up in SF, and remember the peace signs. But they seem to have left the area. Sure they got older and cut their hair. But the whole sentiment has gone. I move to the country, and all I find are rednecks. Well, that's a short blog for what I've been doing.

[zanne]

29. I know what you mean.

I think it's all a state of mind and some people thought it was too hard so they took the easy way out. The 60's still live, but in our heads.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

48. Come up to PDX...

Portland is a Hippy hotbed! :)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

44. not only not gone... breeding more hippies

I'm 36, my parents were hippies and so am I.

[donsu]

19. what about the other question - don't diss smirk, love one another, etc.

now that is in the media. 'the partys should work together' 'stop playing the blame game' 'get along for the good of the country'. people are getting paid to push that message.

[GrumpyGreg]

20. Why on earth would you spend your time listening to this stuff--I

just switch if I don't like what I'm hearing.

[donsu]

23. know thine enemies Grumpy, know thine enemies

nt

[xchrom]

22. somebody's not getting laaaiiid.

and maybe not getting laid -- gasp -- since the sixties?
wow -- that's pretty hard to do. so to speak.

[Hubert Flottz]

25. The establishment, as usual, has gotten us into another blood...

bath! Same Old Shit!

[madrchsod]

26. "beatniks are out to make it rich...

oh no, must be the season of the witch" donovan "season of the witch"

[librechik]

27. I heard that--does he mean the naked, barefoot hippies who gave away

all their posessions and hitchiked to India?

Or the fat, miltary haircut hippes who inherited their dad's companies and took revenge for their inability to have fun by screwing the workers? Which hippies are the selfish ones?

Boomers don't fit into stereotypes very well. Our generation is enormously diverse.

That guy was nutty anyway--Steve eventually cut off his ravings.

How can we counteract that? I think we are too late. We're screwed.

[melody]

28. I think it's a frequent moronic meme these days

Perpetrated by all those guys who, back in the 60s, couldn't get girls because said guys were Vacation Bible veterans with Arrow shirts and pocket protractors. They have since encouraged this hatred of hippies.

I wish I was essentially joking, but I'm not.

[TahitiNut]

53. Yep. It's the Bork Brigade.

Read "Slouching Toward Gomorrah" by Robert BOrk and you'll learn about how the hippies ruined the world. Bork is totally obsessed with his hatred of "hippies."

[omega minimo]

30. Hippies destroyed America when they turned into Yuppies

during the Raygun Era

[carpetbagger]

33. Bingo!

I don't think for a minute, except for changed social mores, that the boomers were as liberal as their parents.

[JohnnyRingo]

35. The conservative's rewrite of history has Vietnam as a wildly popular war

that was ALMOST won....until a handful of "hippies" led by Jane Fonda prompted defeat.

Of course the Viet war actually suffered a 75% dissaproval rating by the late 60s.

[mtnsnake]

36. "How can we counteract this?" The way to counteract this is

to forget about the attack on hippies. Instead of defending hippies, which would only draw more attention to the wrong thing, we should attack THEM, the right wing by replacing the word "hippies" with "right wing": "The right wing destroyed America because they are selfish."

I think because they sucker us into positions of defense, we forget that it would be more effective to go on the attack instead.

[pocket]

37. blame SOUTH PARK

they malign hippies like there's no tomorrow. They have whole episodes devoted to bashing hippies.

[donsu]

39. really! and people laugh and think that is funny?

whose side is South Park on? I've never watched it.

makes me think of that comedian that does a thing on puking. with all the sound effects. and I watched in amazement as a whole theater full of people fell out laughing.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

49. I've watched it.. sometimes I laugh..

sometimes call them bastards and wanna puke. Seems like the puke moments are far more often the past few seasons. I don't watch at all now, but my teenage boys won't miss it. I make sure I pass thru the living room a couple times during the show, and they'll tell me what mean/homphobic/gross thing they just did. We've had a few real deep conversations about several issues due to something we saw on South Park. :)

The Satan/Saddam thing though! That was the one that really turned me off.

[misanthrope]

43. Maybe it's because...

...Colorado is full of Patagonia-bedecked little brats on sabbatical from the frat house while they "go find themselves" by living in resort towns and spending the parents' money before the trust fund kicks in.

[misanthrope]

42. I know plenty of selfish "hippies"...

...or kids who spend an awful lot of time trying to fulfill that stereotype. They're everywhere here, tooling around in their SUVs festooned with Phish and Widespread Panic and Dave Matthews stickers.

Most of them are rude little middle-class brats who care more about partying than actually pitching in to affect change.

[tsuki]

46. They hated us because we stood against the war, and refused to

back down. And we were a convienent scapegoat when the war was lost. They have always felt that if we had stayed in VietNam another 15 years and another 58,000 soldiers had given their lives, VietNam would have been "won."

[Marleyb]

50. What's so funny about peace and love?

the country could use some of that about now...

I am sure they get this crap from Rush who fears the hippies because he knows
The hippies were right!

[Ksec]

51. LOL Knuckle draggin' mouth breathers are hilarious !

Bend over and squeal like a pig .