Broken Heart

[az chela]

As I sit here tonight reading the negative posts on here about Cindy Sheehan I just dont get it!!!!
No ONe,and I mean no one started the anti-war movement til Cindy started showing up on talk shows and radio shows challenging the war and bush!!!What did you want her to do say a few words and then just go away???Well surprise,she isnt like that.She went into this with her heart and soul and she did it for all of us.
She has had her son killed ,her husband divorced her,she lost her house and now people are saying she is doing all this for fame and fortune.Thats a joke as she pays her own way to the rallies and speeches and does not get paid for her inteviews and appearances.
Cindy seldom goes home to her apartment as she is out on the road and going to other countries to get support to end this war.She met with the prime minister of Ireland and people all over the world support her as they are terrified what this government will do next.
I have been talking to a publisher in Australia who says the people there support Cindy 100 percent as they know this war is destroying the planet and killing thousands of people for no reason other than oil and greed.
I am ashamed of the people who are now turning against Cindy.You need to be helping her in any way you can.If you dont your family member will be next.We no longer have any freedom and this has to be stopped.
If you arent going to support her than I say shut the f-----
up and dont come crying to anyone when disaster hits your family.
You have every right to disagree with this but I will support Cindy til I die!!! I am proud to call her my friend and proud to know her!!!!!
For those who agree go to Dc to the protest against the presidents speech the last of jan or first of feb.If you cant go have a protest where you live.
If you dont want to become like Russia in the 50's staand up and fight for all our rights.We cant expect one woman to do it all.

[BuyingThyme]

1. Please post some links.

Thank you.

[WilliamPitt]

3. Here you go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2333368

Now locked, thankfully.

[BuyingThyme]

5. Hmm.

I planted some crosses in Crawford and spent hours sweating my ass off in maintaining them. Does this make me "incredibly tacky?"

[proud2BlibKansan]

51. Well that guy . . .

Low post count and disabled profile.

Besides, it's Christmas. All the teenagers are out of school and some got brand spankin new puters from Santa. There's bound to be a few who want to come here and argue with the libruls.

[WilliamPitt]

2. I was a little weirded out, too

All the naysayers: Name for me, please, what person in America put this occupation in everyone's back yard and living room? Who was that person, if it was not Cindy Sheehan?

:shaking head:

[az chela]

4. Thank you for the update and the news.

I know you support Cindy as much As I do and i want to thank you for posting this.
I will not stand by and let people say this bull shit about her!!!!!
If they were half the person she is they would be out trying to help her

[tatertop]

7. I am behind Cindy Sheehan 100 percent

She is a hero in a time when heroes have become damn hard to find

[nofurylike]

38. absolutely! well said, WilliamPitt! thank you, such clarity! eom

[WhiteTara]

39. monkey boy was afraid to go to the "ranch"

for fear she would show up. I respect and admire Cindy Sheehan very much and I'm so glad she is out there doing. Go Cindy :patriot:

[Hissyspit]

42. Time should have named her Man of the Year.

I find the naysaying of Ms. Sheehan pretty pathetic and even bizarre at this point. You can come up with some criticism for anyone for anything they do. When they are in the public eye on a critical EMOTIONAL and CONTROVERSIAL issue, their actions become even more open to microscopic critique and back-seat-driver second-guessing by persons unwilling to acknowledge that sometimes in life it is BETTER or BEST to do SOMETHING, even a flawed strategy, than nothing at all. It seems to me, as you point out, she's been pretty damned effective.

I marched with her in D.C. Was this the best strategy for me personally, and for the anti-BFEE in general, to achieve what we wanted? Of course it was, because at that point, it was time to do SOMETHING! Nothing in life is guaranteed.

[paineinthearse]

6. Cindy who? A few days ago, I posted Cindy's latest letter from London...

...titled "Cindy Sheehan - Language of the Heart"

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5681649&mesg_id=5681649

In over 4 hours, not one DU'er cared to post his or her thoughts. After giving it a kick it received a grand total of TWO replies.

I guess DU has moved on to green pastures, and has forgotten Cindy.

This woman has given her son and her worldly possessions to the cause of peace. Most of us can't be bothered write a few words of support.

How sad.

[tatertop]

8. I read it. Thank you for posting it.

[paineinthearse]

10. self-deleted

[Tsiyu]

18. I read it also

but was crying so hard afterwards I could not post coherently.

Sorry.

Please understand, much of DU lends support, but not everyone does so loudly.

[Hissyspit]

41. It ended up on the Greatest Page ultimately, maybe as someone else's

post. I remember it well, and I read her article on Truthout.org. She states things so clearly often that there is nothing else to say; some posts are just like that.

[proud2BlibKansan]

52. I just kicked it

I am so sorry I missed it. That is a great read. It was emailed to me a couple days ago. I should have posted it here. Thank you for doing so.

[Cults4Bush]

53. I posted it as well PITA, got 15 noms...

Things were rolling pretty fast that day.

Took a bit of babysitting. As always in this fight with you, my friend!

[ClayZ]

9. Cindy Sheehan is a National Treasure!

If they can't see it they are blind!

She and Casey will go down in history and my grandchildren will tell their grandchildren her story.

My 11 year old granddaughter wrote letters and postcards to her, stood at vigils holding a sign that said "I stand with CINDY".

The love in ONE mothers heart has changed this world. She personifies this story:


The Weight of a Snowflake

"Tell me the weight of a snowflake," a coalmouse asked a wild dove.

"Nothing more than nothing," the dove answered.

"In that case I must tell you a marvelous story," the coalmouse said. "I sat on a fir branch close to the trunk when it began to snow. Not heavily, not in a raging blizzard. No, just like in a dream, without any violence at all. Since I didn't have anything better to do, I counted the snowflakes settling on the twigs and needles of my branch. Their number was exactly 3,471,952. When the next snowflake dropped onto the branch--nothing more than nothing -- as you say -- the branch broke off."

Having said that, the coalmouse ran away.

The dove, since Noah's time an authority on peace, thought about the story for a while. Finally, she said to herself, "Perhaps there is only one person's voice lacking for peace to come to the world." - Source unknown

[az chela]

12. WOW

What a beautiful tribute to Cindy.I am going to send it to her.Thank you so much.
Cindy's friend and supporter

[ClayZ]

31. Astounding is the power of ONE broken heart.

The shattered cracks in Cindy's broken heart let that light, the meaning of peace, shine on the rest of the world. Who else could better point out the lack. She was willing to show us her raw pain and unwilling to settle for one iota less than the truth.

Her HEART touched the world and united many people in many lands. Unselfishly she pointed on to the innocent Iraqi people who have died with bullets and bombs paid for with OUR tax dollars.

Casey was destined for great things! He met that destiny. Many of us physically feel her pain.
She remains in my thoughts and prayers and I wish her peace! She gave me courage!

[WilliamPitt]

13. Another one

A man was walking along the beach, when he saw another man doing something odd.

The other man was picking up starfish that had been stranded on the hot sand and were dying. He was putting the starfish back into the ocean.

The first man looked around and saw hundreds, maybe thousands, of starfish dying on the hot sand.

He asked the other man, "There are so many. What difference can what you are doing make?"

The other man turned, dropped a starfish back into the ocean, and said, "It makes a difference to that one."

[az chela]

14. Wow!!!!

Beautiful!!!!And such a true fact.Every parent cares when it is their child that dies.
I know,my son died 2 yrs ago from neglect at the VA.Wish someone could have saved him.
You Mister William Pitts are a remarkable man

[BuyingThyme]

16. Where did I read this?

[WilliamPitt]

19. Dunno

I saw it a long time ago.

[nicknameless]

44. Maybe here?

http://www.projectstarfish.org/about.php

Their info was posted a number of times after Katrina, because of their wonderful pet rescue efforts.

:)

[NMMNG]

32. My friends and I were doing that in October

in Provincetown with some sort of mollusks (that's what I think they were anyway--they were sea creatures in shells). The tide had gone out and left a bunch of shells on the beach. As we were going along we noticed not all of them were empty--some of them had live creatures left in them. We ended up spending the better part of an hour searching all of the shells in the area for living creatures, and gently tossing those into the shallow water. I know we didn't save all of them, but we saved some of them.

[Vektor]

40. Thanks, Buffy.

That is something I would do too. I always save drowning worms that I see on the sidewalks in rainstorms. Or any living thing I see struggling, for that matter. I just can't NOT try to do something.

[ClayZ]

45. Me too.

I even catch flys in my butterfly net and take them outside.

I guess we are BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS.

[Vektor]

59. Nothing wrong with that!

Better than being a warmongering killing machine. :-)

[undeterred]

54. I stand with Cindy. n/t

[Richard D]

11. Cindy was that one person

of this time, standing in front of and stoping a line of tanks. We owe her a lot of gratitude for her willingness to put herself in front of the cameras and dare to speak the truth that the emperor has no clothes. Would you or I have done it, of course. But for whatever reason, either we didn't do it, or not enough people cared to listen. They listened to Cindy, and it may be her voice that began the spinout of this insane cartel in Washington. Pray it is so.

[BuyingThyme]

15. I still use that "line of tanks" as my background/wallpaper...

whatever you call that.

[Richard D]

17. I think it's the most inspiring picture of the last century.

[BuyingThyme]

20. No, there was a DUer who took this scene, turned it into a cartoon,

and put Cindy in front of the tank with * and Big Dick at the helm.

Anybody have that URL handy?

[WilliamPitt]

21. Here's a picture of it

And a good collection of others:

http://cagle.msnbc.com/news/CindySheehan/1.asp

[BuyingThyme]

23. Here's the thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4323334

and BIG pic:

[az chela]

22. One Woman!!!

Look what has happened since Cindy first spoke out.Delay has been charged,bush and cheney are showing their true faces,rumsfeld is proving he is dumber than a rock,condi and babs have shown their true colors.
We now know about the lies connecting al quada and Saddam,the illegal wire taps,bush's temper tantrums.His refusal to speak to one woman who son was killed in his murdering self delusional war.The outing of Valerie Plame by this sick government.
Hey your doing a hell of a job brownie

[tavalon]

24. That was a small contingent of people

You can find a small contingent of people here to be against and for the most inane things. I've seen the level of support Cindy had and continues to have here. She is one of our saints.

[az chela]

25. I am very glad to hear that is a few people

Thank you for saying that as it seems that I have been reading more and more negative things about Cindy.
Today she spent xmas with her sister Dede and her 3 kids,Carly,Andy and Janey and no one celebrated as a part of their family is permanently gone forever as are so many of our troops that have families with broken hearts just trying to get thru the day.
NO MORE WAR
PEACE NOW

[melody]

26. Cindy and Cindy

I have great admiration for Cindy Sheehan, but you know why I skip threads with her name? Because of the ludicrous attacks against her by rebels in need of a cause who have to attack everyone or everything seen as positive, to say nothing of the trolls, and then the attacks by the Cindy supporters against the Cindy bashers and the trolls. This has nothing to do with Cindy and everything to do with the way people on message boards react. Forums aren't the nervous system of the internet, they're the reflex. Don't be too concerned about what is said and not said here.

>I have been talking to a publisher in Australia who says the people there support Cindy 100 percen

Has he talked to all Australians? They have nearly as many right-wing neo-fascists as we do. I know -- I get mail and email from them in response to the stuff I write. Support for Cindy there (support for anything anti-war there) is roughly about what it is here. The anti-Americanism is simply the same kind that is everywhere right now, coupled with dear, old Anglo-Saxon sibling rivalry.

[nofurylike]

27. Cindy Sheehan is a magnificent Hero!!! i will stand for her, and with her,

any time, any way i ever can!!

i stay away from any thread maligning her, because i know the person can not be reasoned with, and is only baiting us.

thank you for the great tribute to her you have posted here, az chela!!


peace and solidarity, always!

[az chela]

28. I speak from experience

I know what Cindy and all the other families are feeling about their loved ones being killed in a war about greed and power.
My son died 2 years ago and the pain never goes away.The VA neglected his health needs and it killed him.
That is why I stand with Cindy and all the families who will never see their loved ones again.
ALL WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE

[nofurylike]

35. i do not know how you endure it, az chela. but i do know that if you and

Cindy and others who have suffered such grievous loss can live and work for peace, and work peacefully, it is the very least i can do to stand with you and for you; and to manage to find peaceful ways of working to end such needless suffering.

i am so very, very sorry for your loss of your son! and for such senseless, heartless reasons as this government has! unbearable.

:cry:

yes

ALL WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE


peace and solidarity, always!

[ClayZ]

36. Bless your heart!

I am a Navy Mom. My son is now a civilian Firefighter. I have not walked a mile in your shoes on the earth, but I have in my soul.

I guess we will all cross that Rainbow Bridge someday. Your son and Casey and the others will, no doubt have the best seats, in the house! Look for him there. Meanwhile thank you for the good work you are doing for the rest of us.

As for those Power and Greed mongers, they will be in the really hot seats many levels down.

Those cowardly suits who send our sons and daughters into harm way should be right out in front of them when they go. I stand with you in defiance of them!


Blessings for your heart and its healing.

[newspeak]

29. Laura Flanders on AirAmerica

had the Crawford vigil on tonight. Doing interviews and showing how Cindy was committed and caring. People coming in on buses, she hugged everyone getting off the buses. I greatly admire her for her courage and determination.

[nofurylike]

37. i loved that show! i'm so glad they played it again last night! thank you

for reminding us about that, newspeak! a great AAR Event!


peace and solidarity!

[lvx35]

30. Cindy Rocks.

She had her sone blown away, and now she doesn't give a fuck whether she lives or dies. Shes does what she needs to do, and I support her. That's the bottom line.

[NMMNG]

33. Don't let them get you down

That one post was a troll, and they have since been banned from DU.

Cindy is a true hero who helped initiate a nationwide movement that will hopefully put an end to this vicious, illegal and inhumane war. She is a hero who deserves respect, not derision.

Take care, and ignore those who would try to disparage those you respect.

[Moochy]

61. Amen to that!

I apologize to the mods for not just alerting on that thread.. (Southlandshari I'm reporting for my punishment!)
but sometimes the trolls need to be exposed, and well I break the rules every now and then, as can be seen on that thread. :-) Sorry, but if the threads dont get locked in a "flame war" sometimes the polite trolls just keep on slinging.

Cindy Sheehan gets my support 100% and a big middle finger, an alert, and a tombstone to the trolls who say otherwise!

:yourock:

[thebigidea]

34. the bores who say she has "jumped the shark" should be fed to them

what an asanine, overused phrase... as if a freakin' sitcom metaphor should be used on what are literally matters of life and death.

[Hissyspit]

43. She's not a freaking TV show.

Did Rosa Park jump the shark? When was that exactly?

[mogster]

46. Cindy rocks!

She's sooo American, if you take the word of an anonymous internet personality living abroad for anything ;-)

The way she has been standing up for her son is very touching, and she is also creating nice dynamics in the US politics by standing outside the political sphere, adding pressure on the insiders.
It is important to remember that she's not a trained politician and not experienced in 'polishing' her words.
I think that is the reason many naysayers question her; she's speaking her mind and will not fit into the matrix.

[Hekate]

47. Cindy is a woman of great heart and rare courage

I'm glad I missed the negativity: some people need to get a life.

As for Cindy Sheehan, she has sacrificed nearly everything to get the message across that not one more mother's child should die for Bushco's lies.

Stepping into the limelight as she has done has allowed other people to project onto her their hopes, fears, dreams, psychic complexes. She's not a plaster saint; she's a human mother bereft of her son. The power of her witness as a mother gives shape and voice to the antiwar movement.

May she be blessed; may she live to know peace.

Hekate

[leftchick]

48. .......

[stellanoir]

49. A really fine and verrry true post.

I too am glad to have been making merry and missed exposure to the most recent wave of negativity targeting her tremendous integrity and absolute candor. Rocks appear to have more sensitivity than some people, I swear.

On Christmas no less. Sheesh.

I feel that all too many, in our $ worshiping, and all too superficial culture just cannot even begin to relate to any truly selfless altruism whatsoever, anymore, as if they ever could. They, of limited consciousness appear to be completely incapable of imagining or comprehending anyone who is motivated solely by the greater good instead of their own personal enrichment and agenda.

This absense is startling to me, It can be at times, deeply disheartening and is maybe because we've seen all too few of those sorts of inspiring & self sacrificing souls since the days of the civil rites & earlier peace movement. That is, pretty much, until Cindy sat in that ditch. That was an act so-o-o brilliant in it sheer simplicity and honesty. It overjoyed me and so-o-o many others.

It restored the hope and faith in an eventual, inevitable, and truly lasting peace.

I was and am still deeply saddened by how few were or are even aware of the G8 concert that took place last summer. Nor are many scarcily aware of its totally philanthropic purpose.

In a year during which, a bubble gum pop diva was googled far more often than the cause of peace, or incompetance, blatant corruption and gross illegalities were commited by the selfishly short sighted government, when the needless and countless torture and deaths of innocents have been on going, I'm wondering just when those in charge will ultimately fall. I still cannot fathom how they disingenuously tout the ruse of "family values," yet have few if any. They will be exposed as the clueless murdurous hypocrites and sadists that they truly are. My guidance says, "no later than mid February," and I'm praying fervantly that it will be so.

"Who would Jesus bomb ?" Indeed. NOT ONE sentient being EVER is the only possibly answer to that rhetorical question. Nor would any of his true followers, any more than would the true followers of Islam do so.

A dear friend tragically lost her only son in Iraq around Thanksgiving. Cindy then sent her a lovely and comforting letter that moved my friend deeply. I can only assume that Cindy does so for all the moms who have suffered such a needless loss. I'm also quite sure that there that letter was not inclusive of a financial solicitation, nor was it signed by an "autopen." Has anyone ever gotten a similar letter from a politician ?

My tribute to her dearly departed son is about halfway down on this thread. . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5675456

as are "17 tricks or Weapons of Massive Reconstruction for Global Amelioration." The first "8 tricks" of which, are linked to on that thread.

On one thing, we can perhaps all agree. The further enrichment of the greedy members of the PNAC who appear to be void of any conscience whatsoever, is not and could never, ever be even remotely construed as a "noble cause." "Spreading democracy" is utterly heinous hypocrisy.

Our country, and in fact the whole world will be a far happier place when more souls of Cindy's honesty, integrity, tenacity, caliber, and courage speak more loudly and vociferously their "truth to power" (aka greed, deceit, avarice, and sadism) and be heard. I know that there are many others out there who already are and many others who soon will follow suit.

I fully believe in my heart and soul that the usurpers of power will fall over time. It will happen. People think that absolute power has always been mostly corrupt. They are right. I've a warm fuzzy feeling that perhaps that will no longer be true in this still new millennium.

Cindy just might have earned herself a Nobel Peace Prize. She certainly warrants one for far more than sitting in that ditch.

That lawn chair is a National Treasure and can become a National Shrine. Let's see if we can have it bronzed real soon. . .

[az chela]

50. I am overwhelmed by all of you

THANK YOU for posting and defending Cindy.You have made my day!!!!
When things look the darkest the light comes shining true and thanks to all of you for bringing the light.What a special group of people you are.!!!!

[Desertrose]

55. Hi az chela....great post!

Cindy Sheehan is the one who got people's attention and focus. Until she came along and took her stand, nothing really happened or came together. Cindy was our lightening rod, and as such, drew not only focus but fire.

I have great respect for her courage and determination. How much energy and courage it must take to put yourself out there as she has done. I don't have much respect for those who so easily criticize and negate the incredible things she has done for the peace movement in the name of her son. I don't know if I would have had her strength....


Nice to see a "neighbor"....I'm over in the redrocks :hi:
DR

:hug: just read your earlier post...I'm so sorry about your son.....

[az chela]

56. more support

And it keeps coming!!! Howdy Az Du'er.I live in prescott.
I guess the thing that upsets me the most is the fact that Cindy had never given up,she recieves hate mail and death threats all the time,and yet at a great expense to her life she keeps on spreading the message, and people who condemn her hate her for the reasons that the rest of us love her.She is genuine!!! She has no ghost writers,she is not a politician,she speaks from her heart and yes has great compassion for all the families who have had one of their family members killed in this thing that bush calls war.I call it a massacre.SO many innocent Iraqi's who have never done anything to any of us have lost their families,their homes and a way of life that wasnt the best but was so much better than it is now.We have destroyed many towns and now will pay halliburton and their buddies to rebuild at a great cost to the american tax payers.
The broken hearted families will never be happy again,death is a very hsrd thing to deal with.
So once again I thank all of you for your support and may the next year be the end for bushco

[stellanoir]

65. You're totally worth it

and I humbly believe I can speak for others in this matter. . ."it is our pleasure to do so and many, many, thanks."

perhaps check your e-mail. : )

[earth mom]

57. You're seeing a typical rethug smear-attack the messenger not the message

Used on any and all info they want to drown out.

Don't like Cindy? Make her look a fool.

Don't like the 9/11 proof that it was MIHOP/LIHOP? Add Aliens and UFOs to the mix, so that people who accept MIHOP/LIHOP as truth are made to look like lunatics.

Rethugs & Freepers = evil demon spawn. :puke:

[BigBearJohn]

58. Cindy is my hero and always will be. Nothing will ever change that. EVER!

[Raydawg1234]

60. yes, If losing a son in Iraq doesn't give you the right to speak out,

than what does?

[No Exit]

62. Hello there from someone who is frequently chided for not being

friendly enough to posters with "low post counts". (And I'm not a longtime DUer by any means, myself, having only started here a year ago.)

To you I say, RIGHT ON!! I have always had nothing but sympathy and a feeling of solidarity when it comes to Cindy Sheehan.

Some of us deplore the bought-and-paid-for, pre-planned, set-up, phony, stuffed-shirt quality of today's media. That's yet another reason why I love Cindy Sheehan and all that she does. Right-wingnuts can cry about her all they want, but one thing they can't credibly say: they can't credibly claim that she is phony or is some "operative". She is so obviously for real.

The only negative feelings I ever get when reading about Cindy Sheehan are those feelings of dread which sometimes intrude when I think that she was robbed of her SON, her CHILD, by a murderous, lying, dictator who started a phony "war" SOLELY so that HE PERSONALLY could profit. It makes my skin crawl to think of what she has lost--and for NOTHING.

[tlsmith1963]

63. I Don't Hate Cindy

I never can understand why people have turned on her. I guess it's the cynical society we live in. We always think that people aren't what they say they are, that they will end up selling out on us. It's because we put people on a pedestal & think that they are so perfect, & when they can't live up to it we turn against them. Cindy is just a human being like the rest of us. Let's remember that.

Tammy

[FreedomAngel82]

64. I really like, respect and admire Cindy

But the anti-war movement was already started before her. Remember in 2003 before the war? Lots of people went to that. Cindy did help to re-energize everyone and get publicity in the media. I'll never forget her personally. I've been out of town a few days so I haven't seen anything. Sorry.

[Cults4Bush]

66. What a wonderful thread and so full of support!

I wish more of us would write her and support her with just a little note telling her how she has affected you.

A simple thing like that from many different people can really make it a little better for her, ya know?

[walldude]

67. You know what sweetie,

Screw them. I missed that thread (Thanks for the link Will) but it's expected that she is going to have her detractors. They can piss and moan all they want. Let them. It doesn't change the truth...

[Cults4Bush]

68. Yep, pretty much my feeling on it.

Some are trolls and some are blind faithers mad that Hillary took some heat (deservedly so, she decided to side with the little tour of republican backed Gold Star Moms instead). I pounded pavement for Hillary and GOTV's for her, I am not pleased with her defiance on Iraq at all. She couldn't even back Murtha, a friggin' hawk who'd I wager knows a bit more about armed conflict than she does.