Koppel on Timmy's show.

[cornermouse]

He said the time to be having the conversation about whether Bush can spy on us in our own country is now. He went on to add that he thinks Bush will get it. :scared:

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[Spinzonner]

1. That's rather beside the point

He doesn't get exonerated for breaking the law and the Constitution retroactively.

If he gets a pass on that, what law will he decide to ignore in the future based upon an expectation that he can negotiate a pass afterward.

[Toots]

2. How about the Presidential Papers Act

Oh you said future...He broke that Congressional Law immediately upon taking office and guess who hollered about it?? Not a single Democrat..not one..no Republican either,,Bush* just arbitrarily decided he would not abide by the Law. Most of his cabinet would have been mentioned and I doubt in a good light so just issue a pResidential decree that he does not have to abide by the Law...It is because of how the Democrats reacted to this very first indicator of how Bush* will treat the Law that I have been so depressed of late...Honor and Dignity indeed. It is hard to find those anywhere in Congress or Government in general..

[Flubadubya]

3. Did Koppel say that Clinton would have gone into Iraq...

if 9/11 had happened on his watch? Did I hear that right?

This is what I heard, for sure: "They only difference between the Bush administration and the Clinton administration is that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. If it had happed to Clinton..." (that much I know I heard), but it sounded like he ended the statement with... "Clinton would have gone into Iraq".

Am I imagining that or did anyone else hear him say that. Boy if he did, all I can says :wtf: ???? :puke:

[Submariner]

4. Yup...just heard it

I hope Bill gets wind of that bullshit statement and rebuts it this week. What an ahole statement. When will these chickenhawks get it and understand Iraq NEVER had anything to do with 9/11....period!

[EST]

5. You are correct, jaw droppingly so.

It's so amzing that those policy eunichs can get together and drone on and on about the problems besetting the media, such as arrogance, all the while utilizing all the arrogance they can summon-stupid shitheads. Why'nhell do they never hear anyone other than the mental masturbation going on in their heads?

[mrcheerful]

6. I never saw Clinton holding hands with saudi royalty

or kissing them on the cheek then hand in hand walking through the tulips. Did people forget that 19 out of 22 hi jackers on 9/11 were saudis? Or that it has been saudi money thats supported terrorists since 1967? Did americans forget it was saudis that founded the black september cell? Seems to me that everythings leading right back to saudi arabia and the royal saudi family. The funny thing is that the saudis have never been asked or investigated for terrorist activities. Why is it that GW can spy on americans yet the royal saudis are off limits?

[journalist3072]

7. I couldn't believe it when he said that! What is up with him?

I saw sitting right here at my computer, here on D.U., as I was listening to MTP and I heard him say that.

Maybe he had too much holiday cheer last night.

Or maybe he thinks he needs to "redeem" himself before the Rethugs (since they got so upset him with for airing the pictures and names of all the soldieres killed in Iraq).

[Crunchy Frog]

8. I didn't see it but

there's a reason that I stopped watching Ted Koppel back in the 90's, even if I didn't quite realize what that reason was at the time. He's always been horribly overestimated as a television journalist.

I remember that I used to watch him religiously in the 80's. I lost respect for him and stopped watching in the 90's, after about the dozenth time he devoted a program to the O.J. Simpson trial.

I don't think Clinton would have gone to Iraq. I do think that he would have gotten Osama within a few months of the attacks. Actually, I think he would have been enough on the ball that the attacks would never have happened in the first place. In this country, you're not a hero if you actually prevent a terrorist attack, only if you fail to prevent one. The greater the failure, the more you're regarded as a hero. At least if you're a Republican.

[UTUSN]

9. Shrub "will get it". What did he mean?--that Shrub will be held accountabl

e or just that he will grok the argument? (Hoping for the former.)

[cornermouse]

10. He thinks Shrub will win on the spying on Americans issue.

Effectively killing yet another of our rights.

[Flubadubya]

11. and I'm afraid he's probably right about the eavedsdropping issue...

These bastards continually push the envelope to see how much more power they can grab. They are definitely testing the waters with this one. It really is so horribly reminiscent of 1930s Germany. Just the little Bushitler trying to see how much candy he can grab in the candy store without anybody staying, STOP THIEF! :grr: :mad: