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alaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 02:37 PM
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Dem. Senators heard us yesterday!
Every democratic Senator in attendance voted FOR the independent investigation into Bush's lies (Corzine amendement) yesterday, although we lost the amendment 51-45, (according to moveon.org) it feels better to me to be just out-numbered rather than flat out betrayed.

Moveon.org is asking everyone to call majority leader Bill Frist and let him know how we feel about the amendment being voted down, # is (202) 224-3344. The Senate received over 10,000 calls in just a few hours yesterday. The repuke senators either need to jump ship or go down with it.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 02:43 PM
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1. called my senators
Yes, they told me about the amendment being dropped.
That's good the Dems are at least all together for this!

I hope they keep the heat on regardless.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 02:48 PM
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2. Which democrats voted against the investigation?
n/t
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 02:58 PM
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3. Please re-read the original post
Please re-read the original post more carefully
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alaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 03:21 PM
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4. Talk about partisan politics...
(all repukes yea, all dems nay on the motion to table) I went onto the roll call lists just to see who wasn't in attendance, it was Graham, Lieberman, Kerry, and Miller, all Democrats, but that still would have given us only 49 votes, which is why I guess they didn't feel the need to be there. But still, just seeing that grouping by catergory warmed my heart, it's about time ALL these folks started doing what the hell we elected them to do.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 03:22 PM
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5. Four senators decided not to vote at all
Lieberman and Kerry are two of them, I don't remember the other two.
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LiberalLibra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 03:26 PM
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7. Lieberman and Kerry - oh well there goes my Kerry support, unless.....
...he was in the hospital or in jail for supporting this.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 04:45 PM
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11. he didn't support tabling it ...
he just wasn't there. If all 3 had been there, it would have still been 51-48. Even Collins, Snowe, and Chaffee voted with Bush-enablers on this.
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alaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 03:30 PM
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8. I wonder if Lieberman, Kerry and Grahams decisions
had anything to do with their candidacies? If so that's pretty chickenshit in my book. Edwards made it pretty clear where he stands on all this, he really reemed Bush yesterday after they came out of the intelligence committee briefing, saying "the president made an enormous mistake" about not planning better for the aftermath of the war in Iraq, and saying (as did Rockefeller) that more people besides Tennant need to step up and take responsibility for the uranium lie. (but he didn't say lie, that's my word.
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 03:26 PM
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6. if the pressure stays up..
we can hopefully get a few republicans to vote for it. I would like to see the candidates keep addressing it, especially when they are here in Iowa campaigning, that way the local groups can turn it on Grassley and get him to maybe vote our way, it's right up his alley as far as government responsibility and such. He likes to be thought of as a watchdog
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alaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 04:03 PM
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9. I have been trying and trying to get through to Frists office
but haven't yet. I hope it is because the phone lines are jammed with about 400,000 pissed off people, either that or his whole office staff had to go help kiss Tony Blair's behind. All that butt-kissing going on right now on C-span is giving me the urge to vomit.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 04:36 PM
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10. This statement burns me -
Senate Appropriations Chairman Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, described the proposal as "an attempt to smear the president of the United States."

Yahoo News (last paragraph)

What the hell did they do to Clinton all those years? Bush* lied, people died!
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alaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:49 PM
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12. I don't think so...
It's at their constituents' behest and even the republican senators know it thanks to moveon.org's campaign. Interestingly enough, I got an e-mail from the DNC today that bragged that they had gathered 50,000 signatures and were soley responsible for all the senators voting together (moveon.org had 380,000) and then then it went on to ask me for money. I think this is a pathetic statement about the DNC.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:32 PM
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13. Ted Stevens
"Senate Appropriations Chairman Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, described the proposal as "an attempt to smear the president of the United States."

He's a slack jawed sob.
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alaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:51 PM
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14. But they really should understand, shouldn't they?
I mean, if this is how they want to see it. After all, it was they that crafted attempts "to smear the President of the United States" into the art form that it is today. Also amazing is how deftly they manage the whole phrase "the president of the United Staes" yet of late they can't even seem to put the two end letters on the word democrat when referring to our party. Top-down selective amnesia, I guess.
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