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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:32 PM
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List the databases and spy tools that are collecting info on citizens here
Pentagon spying-information held in JPEN database http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2005/12/the_pentagon_br.html

Pentagon holds information on young people from 16 to about 26 in JAMSR database-without parental permission and without any way to get OUT Of the database, only flagged as non-contactible IF the person finds out and tells them.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:36 PM
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1. The Talon Database - is it the same thing as the JPEN?
n/t
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:39 PM
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2. In the link above, William Arkin makes a distinction between TALON & JPEN
TALON, according to the Pentagon, is merely a non-threatening compilation of "unfiltered information."

The data on incidents is used "to estimate possible threats," DOD says. "It is in effect, the place where DOD initially stores "dots," which if validated, might later be connected before an attack occurs," the department says in a written statement prepared for reporters.

"Under existing procedures, a "dot" of information that is not validated as threatening must be removed from the TALON system."

But JPEN is more than just a compilation of TALON's. It is a near real-time sharing system of raw non-validated force protection information among Department of Defense organizations and installations. Feeding into JPEN are intelligence, law enforcement, counterintelligence, and security reports, TALONs as well as other reports.

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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:43 PM
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3. Great post, thanks - William Arkin is great
I should read his blog more often, but I keep forgetting.

(though at the time of posting this, the top comment under his post is kinda nasty - calling a woman a c*** is a huge no-no in my book.)
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:44 PM
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4. Spy tools
From A-Z

http://www.spyworld.com/Surveil1.htm

Here's a fun one...scary

Laser Monitoring System

A secret surveillance is necessary. However, the operator is not able to enter the target room in order to place a transmitter.
The solution to the problem is our Laser Monitoring System .
This system allows the operator to carry out an undetectable surveillance operation from outside the building with a range of up to about 500 meters.

It consists of three parts:

* Laser Transmitter
* Laser Receiver
* Amplifier Unit with Audio-Recorder

This system is operated by transmitting an invisible IR-beam to the window of the target room. The window pane is slightly vibrating in accordance to the sound waves emanating from speech. The beam is reflected from the window pane according to the law of optics, ie. the angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection. The receiver picks up the reflected beam that is modulated by the window pane vibrations, and the optical signals are automatically converted into electronic signals. The picked up speech is now filtered, amplified and recorded. Both the transmitter and the receiver are built into standard single lens reflex cameras, allowing for perfect concealment.
The complete system is supplied in a camera case incorporating amplifier, filters and recorder.
TRANSMITS / RECORDS
Sound wave vibrations which reflect off smooth-surface glass (single or double glass thermopane). Transmitter laser's angle of incidence equals the angle of reflection to the receiver. Rippled or grained glass will not provide a suitable reflecting surface from which to record.

FILTERS OUT
Acoustic interference cause by interior and exterior sound wave reflections may be filtered and modulated by the system. The transmission may be fine-tuned by means of a modulated search tone or by adjusting the placement of the receiver. Tape recordings may be further edited at the user's option.


Laser Monitoring System
Item : LAW-002 ------------------------------ U.S. $ 38.000.00
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:50 PM
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5. Is there is no way to detect it?
Unbelievable.
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:54 PM
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7. There are many counterintelligence products
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 06:22 PM by peanutbrittle
available,, some that can detect IR

This industry will probably go through the roof now
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:04 PM
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10. Hi peanutbrittle!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:19 PM
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12. Hi newyawker99....thanks...here's a spy tool
they can use to listen through your walls!

Wall Listening Device

Features
This unique device is used to listen through walls. It is capable of listening through up to 20" of solid concrete, doors, windows etc.. you can also record by plugging in to recorder. This device is made for professional and is the top of the line for listening through the wall which allows the highest possible sound quality.

http://www.spylife.com/wallmi.html
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:08 PM
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11. counter surveillance
here is a gadget for counter surveillance

http://www.spyworld.com/Surveil4.htm


OSC - 5000 ------------------------------
Designed for professionals, it is called the Omni Spectral Correlator. The most technologically advanced counter surveillance package on the market today! Silently monitors and detects threats 24 hrs. a day, automatically.

The OSC will Scan from Audio (50Hz - 15KHz), radio VLF -Microwave (10KHz - 3000Mhz) to Infrared (850 - 1070 nm) and utilize passive sound - pattern matching to automatically recognize a surveillance device. In the automatic mode, the unit will continuously scan all bands for acoustic pattern correlation and then alert you to the presence of a surveillance device with either a silent or audible alert.

Similar to human hearing, this system instantly recognizes complex sound patterns arriving from both the REFERENCE and received audio channels. Most room environments contain many "passive" sounds like air conditioners, computers, talking, etc. The OSC searches for an acoustic pattern match between the room passive REFERENCE sounds and any identical information received while scanning to provide you with a positive I.D., without alerting the eavesdropper.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:52 PM
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6. RFID chips with information collected by private enterprise
without your permission at this point, including plans for RFID to be in driver's licence, and passports, and every item sold on the planet.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:57 PM
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8. Seisint, Choicepoint, Acxiom
http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/noplacetohide/notebook.html

For a time I was lost among the trees. But as we talked after long days of reporting, we tried ways of telling a simpler story, of capturing the larger meaning in all this information, the many amazing changes taking place. As a mental exercise, one day in early 2004 I sat down and dashed off a note to myself in the form of a hypothetical scenario:

What if, a few years ago, the president had given a major address to the nation and said:

We face grave threats from abroad, and at home. Millions of people around the world hate America and want to destroy us. Without doubt, some of those people are living on our soil.

To respond to this threat, I've asked Congress to create a new Department of Surveillance. Employing tens of thousands of workers across the country, this new department will gather information on all Americans and all foreigners living in America. It will monitor many of your movements and purchases, your medical records, your associations, your reading and travel habits, and much more. The Department will create powerful computer programs that will allow authorities to find patterns in the behavior of each and every American, so we may identify those among us who behave suspiciously and require greater scrutiny.

I pledge that by 2005, law enforcement officials anywhere in America will be able to enter your name into a computer, and in seconds receive a detailed dossier on you. This data will also be used to rate the likelihood that any person living in America will commit crimes or acts of terrorism. (Most of the data gathered by the Surveillance Department will also be available to businesses and members of the public at a reasonable charge.)

The aim is simple: personal and national security. Our surveillance society will be a safer society.

Would Americans have consented? Even after 9/11, would we consciously agree to have our heretofore-private information gathered and shared in this way if the choice were presented to us plainly?

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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:59 PM
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9. Here's some tools..
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 06:00 PM by Xenotime
Cell Phones - They track your movements on the freeway and from region to region.
Email - Every message you send out is being monitored by someone who is reporting it.
Internet Searches - Big "G" tracks every search and stores IP addresses in a database.
Operating Systems and Software - They have software that tracks and reports back to central DBs
Credit Cards - Tracks your spending habits

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