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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:49 PM
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HAGEL"My Oath is to Constitution, NOT VP, President or Political Party"
December 22, 2005
Hagel's Grumpy
Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) unloaded on Dick Cheney in a conference call yesterday with local NE papers, according to the Grand Island Independent.

Hagel compared Cheney unfavorably with Ronald Reagan, who he said was not a "vitriolic person or one to impugn the motives of people who disagreed with them." More Hagel: "Never did he do that. There is no place for that in politics because it debases our system and our process." He said Americans are "sick and fed up" with that type of politics. "Cheney's poll numbers are very, very low. ... It doesn't help when you characterize ... as unpatriotic or not caring about our people or our security. The American people see through that, and it is beneath the dignity of our country."

And last, but ooooh certainly not least, this gem from the Lincoln Journal-Star: When asked about Cheney's warning that critics of the Bush admin's domestic eavesdropping program could pay a heavy political price, Hagel said, "My oath is to the Constitution, not to a vice president, a president or a political party."
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:51 PM
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1. the worm is turning
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:52 PM
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2. BOOYAH!!!
Another crack in the wall of the Repug tower of cards!!!! I love it.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:53 PM
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3. Bush. Is. Toast.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:56 PM
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4. Chuck Hagel has always been a decent guy. We should write and thank him
For those comments. This does not mean the worm has turned . This is merely Hagel doing what he has always done. Cheney is an asshat. And the political consequences will be his if he attacks Hagel.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 07:11 PM
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29. Except for his "voting machine" ownership interests...
I hope Hagel follows up on his words...because, he doesn't usually do so.
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badgolfer Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:56 PM
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5. Hagel
Hagel and McCain always talk this crap on TV or in the newspapers and then go back to the Senate and vote for everything Bush/Cheney ask for. They hardly ever back up their tough talk.

Just a prelude to the 2008 presidential elections for them.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:58 PM
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7. Hagel is far more honest than McCain. McCain really does talk out of both
sides of his mouth. He would sell his family and has for a shot at the WH!
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:10 PM
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12. Hope so -- but he wasn't truthful about his voting machine company
and I'm suspicious of anyone who owns (or owned) a voting machine company during this particular time in history.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 03:10 PM
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21. and both cheeks of his ASS!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:09 PM
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10. except for yesterdays voting in the Senate - he did NOT walk in step
with the WH

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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:57 PM
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6. Hagel sounds a little more than grumpy
He sounds righteously pissed.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:08 PM
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Email him and thank him. I just did.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:08 PM
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8. La-de-frickin'-da
so Hagel knows how to read poll numbers. Whooptie. I'm from Nebraska originally, I've dealt with Hagel for years. He's running for President in 2008 and folks, he's dangerous. Why? Because obviously he can convince moderates and even some Democrats that he's not so bad. He's intelligent, he's a vet...and he's as Republican as they come. He's from Nebraska for pete's sake. He's NOT A MODERATE and if we keep patting him on the back and saying he's not so bad, he's going to be our next president.
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:50 PM
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17. I agree with you and Mike Malloy...I'll never trust another repuke
after the past few years. That's it man; I've effing had it with the whole motley crew!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:09 PM
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9. If only more of Hagel's GOP colleagues kept their oath to the
US Constitution.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:10 PM
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11. It's nearly a week and the story is looking like a centipede
the real question is whether is can be revived after the holiday recess.

We need to hammer the representatives and senators with demands for presidential accountability during their listening sessions over the recess.

Vigils at their district offices might not be a bad idea.


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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:14 PM
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13. That's what I want to hear!
Peace.
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YourBrother Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:14 PM
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14. ZIS MERE MORTAL DAREZ TO QVESTION HERR CHENEY?!
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 01:16 PM by YourBrother
ZIS IZ TOTALLY VEPREHENZIBLE BEHAVIOUR

HOW CAN ZIS INVILTRAITOR BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO MEIN FURHER IN ZIS VAY? :wtf:

YOUR PAPERZ PLEASE HERR COMANDANT!:grr:

HEIL BUSH!:patriot:

DO THEY STILL HANG PEOPLE OVER THERE?

THE PAY PER VIEW EVENT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST WORLDWIDE AUDIENCE EVER!

someone needs to smack these guys right in the nose, they are spitting in the public's face on a daily basis
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:32 PM
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15. here's the story referenced
Sen. Chuck Hagel said Wednesday that Americans can be protected against terrorism without violating the law or ignoring civil rights.

Hagel is one of two Republican members of the Senate Intelligence Committee who have called for an investigation into President Bush’s decision to order domestic intelligence surveillance without court approval. “No president is ever above the law,” Hagel said in a telephone conference call from Washington.

“We are a nation of laws. You cannot avoid or dismiss a law.”

At issue, Hagel said, is whether the decision to order such surveillance violates a 1978 law requiring approval by a secret U.S. foreign intelligence surveillance court.

http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2005/12/22/local/doc43a9ca5a569aa635906430.txt
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:34 PM
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16. Thats right We are Americans first and follow the constitution
not a King...
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 02:15 PM
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18. It's sad when Hagel's public statements are more appealing than
his counterpart, Democrat, Ben Nelson.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 02:27 PM
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19. Everyone who's running for reelection or for Prez is now in
"PROTECT MY ASS" mode. Unfortunately, they're all too damn LATE! The country is FUCKED. They should have thought about the Constitution as they signed onto the PNAC agenda with GUSTO. :grr: I am glad to see the Beltway revolt, but it doesn't change MY opinion of ANY of those assholes who let those warmongers proceed with their destructive agenda.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 03:09 PM
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20. How do I spell relief? I-M-P-E-A-C-H T-H-E-M
Guess maybe and only "maybe" it's NOT just a GD piece of paper to Hagel?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 03:39 PM
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22. Hagel Backlash
December 22, 2005
Hagel Backlash
This letter was published in the Omaha World Herald today.

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Now that U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel has joined the liberal Democrats (our own Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson is not one) and voted to filibuster the Patriot Act, it is time for him to go.

Since President Bush has been in office, Sen. Hagel has done everything in his power to hurt the president's initiatives so Hagel can be called a "maverick." Now he is so arrogant that he doesn't even care if he is hurting us.

It is obvious even to the casual observer that Sen. Hagel is cut out of the same political cloth as Bill Clinton, who moistened a finger and stuck it in the air to decide what to say on any particular day. Nebraska deserves better.

Chuck Hagel is an embarrassment. I'll bet he can find a job back on the East Coast somewhere. I'm sure he and his politics would fit in much better there.
John Larsen, Elkhorn, Neb.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:09 PM
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23. If just a few more repugs felt their oaths were to the Constitution rather
than to a person, political party or ideology, what a much better world it would have been these past five years. ;)
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:15 PM
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24. I was starting to wonder if all republicans were traitors.
Maybe not.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:18 PM
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25. Yeah, this election-fraud is the exception.
:eyes:

:D
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:22 PM
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26. Hagel is going to nail down the Independent vote in 2008. Methinks he's
running right now against McCain in the primary and in some primaries, Independents get to vote.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:23 PM
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27. Hagel is a very powerful man, he is a major player in BBV.
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 04:23 PM by Rex
I bet he ends up 'winning' in 2008. :eyes:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:27 PM
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28. Damn, I step out for a few hours and all hell breaks loose!
This IS good news. He has been tottering on the line for sometime. Guess he finally got tired of having tasting butt! Finally!
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