Yay... NO MORE DIEBOLD, NO MORE DIEBOLD!!!

[Rainscents]

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/12/19/100loc_a1voting001.cfm

Council to rethink mail-only vote
When a Democrat-controlled Snohomish County Council starts work in January it will reconsider a change in how we vote.

WA. State, Snohomish County... We now have 3 democrats/ 2 republicans in Jan and Dem's want to get rid of Diebold machines and go all mail in ballots!!!! This past election, Dem's took control of city council seat!!! I am so excited!!!
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[texpatriot2004]

1. That is definitely something to bounce about. Yeah.

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[Rainscents]

4. I called the council office weekly to get rid of the machines!

Dem's do listen!!!

[azmouse]

2. Congrats on the good news!

I hope the rest of the nation follows!

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. Another card falling in the house of cards

[TechBear_Seattle]

5. "All mail in ballots" means WEAKENING oversight of elections

Why in the world would election activists want to eliminate entirely the oversight left intact by the Diebold / electronic voting machines fiasco?

[Rainscents]

7. Snohomish county has very high Absentee ballot mail in votes

and we should go all mail in ballots just like OR! There's been machines hacking past three elections with Diebold! All paper mail in ballots are much safer.

[TechBear_Seattle]

8. All paper ballots means squat without oversight

With precinct voting, there is a very clear and unbroken chain of accountability from the poll-workers who accept my ballot to the vote counters who make sure it is tallied. At no moment does my ballot, or any other ballot cast at a polling station, move outside of that chain. With mail-in voting, your ballot -- very clearly indicated to be a ballot -- passes through dozens of anonymous hands. There have been enough stories where crates of mail-in ballots were found to have been tampered with, mishandled, misdirected and just plain stolen that I am not willing to gamble on the United States Post Office.

I have been fighting for years to increase accountability and oversight of elections. I have been fighting to guarantee that every legal vote is counted as intended. Eliminating precinct polling places in exchange for mail-in balloting takes everything I and thousands of voting activists have worked for and throws it in the trash. Along with, I must add, every last shred of accountability. If (when?) another King County elections fiasco occurs, I will know who to sue. Will you?

In short, mail-in balloting advocates are hoping to replace a great threat to democracy with a far greater threat. Oh, how the Republicans must be laughing their asses off.

[Rainscents]

9. It work fine in OR! People are going to have options!

1) Mail in ballot

2) Drop off at Polling locations

3) Drop off ballots in ballot locations (they'll collect daily), one independent, one Dems and one Republicans guarding the ballots.

4) Drop off at City county office

[sandnsea]

10. Uh no

The ballot goes from me and can go straight back to the one county location where they will count ALL votes, if that's the way I want to do it. You don't have to mail in a mail in ballot. You do get plenty of time to figure out if there is something wrong with your registration though. And you do get plenty of time to vote AND make sure your ballot was at least put in the hopper to be counted. And you do guarantee a paper ballot. And as long as there is a random audit, you also guarantee the machines aren't tampered with. There are too many opportunities for fraud with precincts, that's the way it looks from where I sit. I like mail-in, the only fraud complaints we had in Oregon were in the registration process. It's a much better system.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Good news!!

I'm happy for that news!! :toast: