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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 01:34 PM
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Okay, Agent Mike, let me explain this about "threatening groups"
Right-wing vigilante groups, like those that spawned the Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh, have already proved that they are terrorists. They're well-armed, and fascinated with war, weapons and war-like behavior (wearing cammo, making bombs, etc). As we have seen, some anti-abortion groups have also already proved to be a threat to life - bombing abortion clinics and murdering physicians who provide abortions. These groups need to be monitored.

The Quakers? NOT A THREAT. Not even a LITTLE threat. Worst behavior: nonviolent protest (did you see that "nonviolent" part? That means no one gets hurt. No bombs, no guns, no weapons - nada). Handing out fliers against military recruiting. Holding meetings to show young people how to put together a case for themselves as a C.O. in case the draft is re-instated.

So, Agent Mike, here's a little secret I'll share with you during Christmas Week tp save you time, so you can go Christmas shopping instead of giving us a second thought. The Quakers are too disorganized to be much of a threat to anyone. They talk too much. While the Michigan Militia is out practicing military drills in the woods and stockpiling guns, the Quakers will spend hours arguing about whether or not they need to form a Committee for C.O. Education, and whether that committee needs to put together a formal list of goals or not, and whether the Worship & Ministry Committee needs to approve those goals. And even in the rare event they do get organized, they are not going to hurt anyone Oh, and if you want to infiltrate our meetings, they're usually pot-luck, and people tend to bring what you might consider "hippy" food - homemade bread, homemade soup, non-meat chili, vegetarian dishes. And if you want to fit in, wear comfy shoes - the wingtips would be a dead giveaway.

So, let's review:
Right-wing groups: guns, bombs, history of murder, danger to America
Quakers: pamphlets, more talk than action, history of non-violence, healthy snacks and comfy shoes






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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 01:42 PM
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1. But healthy snacks is a direct threat to America's fast food industry,
one of the cornerstones of the US industrial sector. All those manufacturing jobs, you know.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 01:45 PM
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2. Hmmm, so who are the real threat?
The right-wing wackos or the Quakers?:sarcasm: You need to spell it out for Agent idiot, I mean Agent Mike.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 01:52 PM
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3. they are in the white house...
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 01:59 PM
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4. I can envision a pre-emptive attack on the Quakers
Better to fight them there ... Can't fool me all the time.

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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:06 PM
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5. Agent Mike, check this out, too
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:NttDkRDowAQJ:nwcitizen.com/publicgood/reports/wmdbrief.pdf+right+wing+terrorist&hl=en

Find out who bought copies of "The Turner Diaries" besides Timothy McVeigh.

The Bible of the Right Wing

The Turner Diaries is probably the most widely read book among far-right extremists; many have cited it as the inspiration behind their terrorist organizing and activity. Hoping to bring about the Aryan uprising depicted in Pierce's novel, Robert Mathews, formerly a Pacific Northwest representative of Pierce's organization, helped found the 1980s white supremacist gang The Order. Mathews' efforts ended in a fatal shootout with F.B.I. agents in 1984, while other Order members, mostly past associates of the National Alliance and Aryan Nations, were convicted and sentenced to long prison terms for their crimes, which included murders, robberies, counterfeiting and the bombing of a synagogue.

More recently, the Aryan Republican Army, which committed 22 bank robberies and bombings across the Midwest between 1992 and 1996, cited The Turner Diaries as inspiration, as did The New Order, whose members were charged with conspiracy to possess and make machine guns. At the time of their indictment, an F.B.I. agent testified that the group planned to bomb the Anti-Defamation League's New York headquarters, the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Alabama, and the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. It had also talked of bombing state capitols and post offices, and poisoning public water supplies with cyanide.

But The Turner Diaries exerted its most tragic influence on the mind of Timothy McVeigh. Days before he bombed the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and wounding 500 others, McVeigh mailed a letter to his sister warning that "something big is going to happen," followed by a second envelope with clippings from The Turner Diaries. When she learned of her brother's arrest in connection with the bombing, McVeigh's sister burned the clippings.

F.B.I. agents also found a copy of a passage from The Turner Diaries in the car McVeigh drove on the day of the bombing. It read:

The real value of our attacks today lies in the psychological impact, not in the immediate casualties. For one thing, our efforts against the System gained immeasurably in credibility. More important, though, is what we taught the politicians and the bureaucrats. They learned today that not one of them is beyond our reach. They can huddle behind barbed wire and tanks in the city, or they can hide behind the concrete walls and alarm systems of their country estates, but we can still find them and kill them.

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Turner_Diaries.asp
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:13 PM
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6. You're missing the real terrorist group
The Teachers unions . . .

:sarcasm:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:14 PM
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7. Ha ha ha ha ha....K and R
:kick:
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:24 PM
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8. Kicking in case Agent Mike is on in the evening.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:32 PM
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9. LOL!!!!
:rofl:

Your post reminds me of that Fresno peace group featured in Fahrenheit 911. They were being watched...and they were so innocuous! LOL!
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