Our talking point: If Bush had spied on Saudis, 9/11 could have been

[Walt Starr]

averted.

Motherfuckers.

[bullimiami]

1. My talking point. IF BUSH CARED, 9/11 WOULD HAVE BEEN AVERTED.

[thefloyd]

2. I agree

Excellent Talking point

[rumpel]

3. if * had brains we would not be here.

[FreedomAngel82]

5. Yep

And if Bush was any sort of Christian he wouldn't be where he is in the first place. Al Gore would be. Stealing is a sin to us Christian's and a big no-no.

[Rocknrule]

4. How about

if Bush hadn't STOLEN THE ELECTION, we would've had a compitent president and 9/11 wouldn't have happened. We'd be sitting pretty just like we did throughout Clinton's presidency

[niyad]

6. how about all of the above? guaranteed to make the bushites foam,

especially if we use them all, one right after the other. their teeeny-weeeeny widdle heads might explode!!

[rumpel]

7. yes, trying to really help people in need around the globe. But recently

I am staring to be so skeptic of any politicians motives...and deeds.

[Amonester]

15. Exactly what I think also. And the fight against global warming...

would be the "war" we would all be "fighting" for every day.

:thumbsup:

A 'new' economy would be developing at a very fast pace all over the world. Clean(er) energy efficient technologies would be the next big thing. Oh! And N.O. levees would have been fortified just in time too. Their fundings wouldn't have been squandered using paper bags in Iraq.

Last but not least: tens of thousands would still be alive or be healthy like they used to before these greedy war criminals who condone torture stole the treasury and began destroying everything else.
:banghead: :grr:

[GrumpyGreg]

8. If Clinton had spied on the Saudis 9/11 could have been avoided

This thing wasn't planned overnight.

[rumpel]

11. He did take terrorism seriously, remember the Clarke testimony? And how

they said it is "Wag the Dog"? whatever Clinton did while he was in office.

[niyad]

12. I see you were listening to pete king, too:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5632370

[GrumpyGreg]

17. Never heard of Pete King .

[niyad]

18. but you are repeating the same drivel he was spewing tonight.

[GrumpyGreg]

20. Drivel? My opinion is my opinion. One man's drivel is another man's

profundity.

Great country,isn't it?

[niyad]

21. you are allowed your opinion, and I am allowed mine, too--and I am

also allowed to point out that you sound just like the reich-wing hacks.

great country, isn't it?

[Bridget Burke]

25. Clinton thought terrorism was a serious threat.

He investigated & acted when necessary. Gore was also concerned.

But your boy stole the election & let 9/11 happen. He had plenty of warning.

[LunaC]

9. WRONG!

If PNAC didn't exist, 911 would have been averted.

The "terrorists" are a fairy-tale fabrication.

[Bluebear]

13. You will never convince Joe Six-pack of that.

HOWEVER as Walt mentions, if Joe buys the official story, then spying on his Suadi buddies instead of regular American folk WOULD have stopped 9/11!

[LunaC]

16. I dunno....

The second Intelligence Committee Report hasn't come out and this one is muy importante since Rockefeller is fully aware of the PNAC and their 1998 letter to Clinton urging an Iraq attack. If "PNAC" can become a water-cooler topic, the lightbulb might - just might - go off in Joe's head in an epiphany of epic proportions. Please don't squash my fantasy...(but I do understand your point!)

[rumpel]

14. shadow government...

[Al-CIAda]

10. The Cheney counter terrorism task force never met!

...and of course, see signature.

[newspeak]

19. oh, come on Walt

Bush wouldn't spy on his friends. I remember the immigration officer who came forward after 9/11 and said that he was told to process Saudi papers with no questions. I mean, one of our great allies who believes in democracy, human rights--they are always to be trusted. Women can vote and drive not like evil Iraq and Iran. :sarcasm:

[radwriter0555]

22. uh no... the saudis as a state didn't sponsor 911,. The hitmen the PNAC

hired were found probably, due to the PNAC/bush regime illegal wire taps though... which helped them out a lot, eh?

[newspeak]

23. yeah,

the Bush family has some strange bedfellows, the BinLadens and the House of Saud. However, Saudi Arabia is one of our purported allies that has a human rights record worse than Saddam's, especially against women. I don't see this administration doing anything about it. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[Al-CIAda]

24. Err...actually, we told THEM!!!!

NBC: U.S. told Saudi Arabia bin Laden could strike with civilian plane
Memo notes U.S. feared jet attack prior to 9/11

NBC: U.S. told Saudi Arabia bin Laden could strike with civilian plane
NBC, MSNBC and news services
Updated: 3:13 p.m. ET Dec. 9, 2005


The U.S. government warned Saudi Arabia more than three years before the Sept. 11 attacks that Osama bin Laden might use civilian airplanes in terror attacks, according to a memo released Friday by the National Security Archive, NBC News reported.

The June 1998 note says bin Laden “might take the course of least resistance and turn to a civilian target.”

The warning came from a U.S. regional security officer, diplomatic officials and a civil aviation official in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. It was based on a public threat from bin Laden against “military passenger aircraft.” The memo, however, said that bin Laden did “not differentiate between those dressed in military uniforms and civilians,” NBC News’ Robert Windrem reported.

The Sept. 11 Commission, a panel appointed by Congress in 2002 to investigate U.S. security, made no mention of the memo in any of its reports, Windrem said. It is unknown why the report did not address the warning.

The document was first disclosed by Washington Post editor Bob Woodward, in his behind-the-scenes book, “Bush at War,” written in 2004. It was made public on Friday by the National Security Archive, a private group that uses Freedom of Information requests to obtain classified data.

On Friday, the National Security Archive also released a letter from former CIA Director George Tenet written five days after Sept. 11. Titled “We’re at War,” the letter to top deputies urges an “unrelenting focus” on using all of America’s capabilities, “not only to protect the U.S. both here and abroad from additional terrorist attacks — but also, and more importantly, to neutralize and destroy al-Qaida and its partners.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10398375/from/RS.4