The House just came back to debate the defense appropriations bill.

[Idioteque]

These late night sessions usually mean something fishy is going on.

[Cobalt Violet]

1. Midnight!

I was just going to go to sleep but now I'm too scared to.

[cry baby]

2. Here is the link:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[Guckert]

3. Hey, there's Cut and Run Hunter. I wonder if he will mention ANWAR?

[cry baby]

5. Probably not, but he might show what they had for dinner on a plate.

2 fruits, protein, veggies...

[Guckert]

15. Looks like yummy lemon Chicken to me. Now bring on the torture

[cry baby]

19. LOL

too funny!

[cry baby]

4. Duncan Hunter speaking first.

He likes the conference report.

[Moochy]

10. Curt Weldon defending america from EMP attack.

:shrug:

[cry baby]

6. Mr Skelton now.

Will he mention ANWR?

[Moochy]

7. Skelton didnt mention ANWR

A notable quote from him: (not from just now)
'We cannot leave Iraq. This has to be a success. If it's not a success, the credibility of the United States of America as a leader in this free world will hit rock bottom. We cannot allow that.'"

He's got a stealth bomber on his home page. :shrug:

[shanti]

17. oh jeebus

the u.s. is already at rock bottom!

[cry baby]

9. Hunter says that there are no changes from the last conference

report, so maybe they talked Stevens out of trying to put the drilling thing in it.

[nofurylike]

8. this is the one with ANWR drilling tucked in it, correct? still? eom

[Guckert]

11. Why dont we put in free school lunches in the energy bill. kids need

energy to learn. these guys SUCK!!!

[nofurylike]

14. very well said, Guckert! eom

[FreedomAngel82]

25. And don't forget college

[cry baby]

12. Ortiz (D) from Tx chiding the way the conference report was

done, no including of dems, etc.

[cry baby]

16. Snyder (D), too. eom

[Viva_La_Revolution]

13. a colliquie? sp

:shrug:

[Moochy]

18. engaging in a "colloqui"

col·lo·qui·um Pronunciation (k-lkw-m)
n. pl. col·lo·qui·ums or col·lo·qui·a (-kw-)
1. An informal meeting for the exchange of views.
2. An academic seminar on a broad field of study, usually led by a different lecturer at each meeting.

( Latin, conversation, from colloqui, to talk together : com-, com- + loqui, to speak; see tolkw- in Indo-European roots. )

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/colloquium

[Viva_La_Revolution]

20. colloquy

Formal conversation between Representives.

Moochy - it's seems to be some House procedure. I'm trying to find a basic description.

[Moochy]

21. Right I knew it was a house term

I did not know it was de-latinized in it's spelling and assumed that the house was using the Latin root of colloquy. I am interested in the official definition, I searched a few "definitions" sites for terms used in the house/senate.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

22. Cool. Check out this site I found!

http://congress.indiana.edu/learn_about/feature/congressional_glossary.php

Colloquy
A pre-scripted floor dialogue between two members on the floor, usually the chairman of a committee and another member of the committee.

The dialogue seeks to clarify the intent behind certain provisions of a bill for purposes of legislative history.

[Moochy]

24. Nice & bookmarked!

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Of course

They either make the bills at night and vote first thing in the morning or late at night. It does make things very suspecious.

[nofurylike]

26. so, speaker says ANWR is NOT in there anymore? media says:

http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&q=ANWR%2Bdefense+appropriations+bill&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d

one after another article, as recently as last half hour, saying it IS still in there??

they are so slimey i don't know what to trust.

anyone reading between those particular lines here?

aaarrrgh! star wars in there too?

[uppityperson]

27. Are they going to tack the unPatriot Act stuff onto the end of this?

On the other hand, they will be going home soon, but I do not trust them either and think this will happen.

[nofurylike]

29. i do too, uppityperson. scary how low they go! seems closed for now. eom

[nofurylike]

28. wha...? postponed? to when? dawn? eom

[nofurylike]

30. they passed it? that voice vote was it passing the house? Bloomberg

article just up:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=ay5A7Jt21A9o&refer=us

U.S. Lawmakers Agree on Defense Authorization Measure (Update1)

Dec. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Congressional negotiators agreed on legislation that authorizes defense spending in fiscal 2006 and sets military policy, including a provision barring mistreatment of enemy combatants in U.S. custody.

The provision outlawing cruel and inhumane treatment of prisoners, sponsored by Senator John McCain, is one of several in the measure that address controversies triggered by the global war on terror and the conflict in Iraq. The House and Senate passed separate versions of the measure, and may vote today on the compromise that resolved their differences.

-snip-

Congress also is struggling to pass a separate defense spending measure -- the appropriations bill that provides funding for the current fiscal year. That measure totals $453 billion and doesn't money for military construction and health care and retirement programs for veterans, money that is in the authorization bill.

***

a "seperate bill"?

trust 'em far as kick 'em

sheesh...

any other take on this?

[nofurylike]

31. addressing that now? who is that? chmn appropriation cmtee? can't read

his name.

"want assurances..."

"have the bill read"

anyone watching, clear this up for me?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

32. Check the other thread... we migrated

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5632190

[nofurylike]

34. thank you, Viva_La_Revolution eom

[nofurylike]

33. is anyone else watching this? who was that, just said ANWR IS still in

the defense appropriations bill.

i can't read names on my little screen! arrrgh!

now coming up again!

[cry baby]

35. I heard that too...what the fvck? Hunter said it wasn't in there.

I don't trust Hunter. Obey is speaking right now.

[nofurylike]

36. thank you, cry baby! i see you are also on the 'official' thread :) see

you over there!


peace!