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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:01 AM
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A nation of whores...
Republican and Democrat, that's what we've become.

The deck has been stacked. The rules have been paid for and not since Proxmire has congress been populated by men of honorable intentions.

Our current system of government has slowly been stacked with rules and regulations to allow interests with money to steer our government and we, as the lemmings we are, seem to be happy to drink the wine as they continue to beat and rape us all.

Wow. It's great to be an American today. At least it's okay because God's on our side.

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:13 AM
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1. Yeah and even the wine is getting pretty thin, buddy.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:57 AM
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2. I agree with your succinct analysis of our Oligarchy.
Which disguises itself with the word, but not the reality, of Democracy. We have one political party with two wings, both in subservience to the real powers that run the country. The capitalists and the military.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:23 PM
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3. I wish it weren't so.
This country is now run by money. Rhino or Dino, it's all the same anymore.

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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:26 PM
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4. Then go have a pity party with the Greens...
...I'm sure they'll fix what ails us...:sarcasm:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:35 PM
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6. Oh, God... Blow me! (LOL)
(really, LOL.. You are spot on)
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:27 PM
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5. I'd rather say it's a nation of Frat Boys
Seems closer to the truth. The entitlement mentality.

Or you could call them rapists. But whores doesn't really cover it.

There may be a few sorority girls playing the game also.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:44 PM
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7. A nation of pimps and johns and dick wannabes
See, the subject OPs come out on DU and then behavior like this shows up:

"whores" "as they continue to beat and rape us all."

One problem is the phoniness-- there is only flippancy here. No real reason to paint such a bullshit picture.

:wow:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:53 PM
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8. Do we have isues?
The whore analogy is pretty well spelled out in the OP in that the "selling out" aspect is clearly spelled out.

There were metaphors in the OP but the distance to anything sexual is pretty far.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:59 PM
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9. Do you have tissues?
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 05:08 PM by omega minimo
The use of "whore" (limited to "media whore") "is pretty well spelled out in the" DU Rules.

"but the distance to anything sexual is pretty far."

Denying the sexual content of the OP is delusional. And "blow me"?

Whore you foolin?


btw:

considering who's runnin the show, "pimps" and "johns" really is the apt metaphor. :hi:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:08 PM
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11. In modern parlance, the term "whore" is most often used to denote
someone who "sells out" their better judgements for monetary gain.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:15 PM
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13. This is DU
Those are the Rules




and considering who's runnin the show, "pimps" and "johns" is a the apt metaphor. :hi:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:23 PM
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14. To quote the rules:
"A common exception that is permitted is the use of words like "whore" or "prostitute" in cases where public figures or the media do favors. (For example: "Fox News is whoring for the GOP again" or "Tom DeLay is a prostitute for corporate interests.")"

That's the way the term is/was used. No personification except to politicians in a gender neutral way.

And the "blow me" comment? That was beyond doubt a jibe of friendly demeanor with a "you're right" tag to it.

Did I piss on your Wheaties this morning or what?

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:08 PM
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10. ??
In the OP you wrote:

"we are, seem to be happy to drink the wine as they continue to beat and rape us all"


Now if we are being raped - doesn't that make them rapists? One doesn't hear about raping whores, now do they?


There was the post earlier quoting Hunter Thompson where he spoke of "Killer Whores" - but that is equally silly. Whores are not the problem.

Politicians who don't have a problem with lying, stealing, cheating, killing, and manipulating are. They are also mostly aged "Frat Boys".

For more on that - see:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=341x5111


"Whore you foolin?" is right.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:14 PM
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12. The term "whore" was not used in any sexual form. It was/is
used as a descriptor of someone who sells virtue for money. Not the word that it evolved from. We could talk semantics all day.

It's really simple. See http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=whore

"To compromise one's principals for monetary gain."
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:24 PM
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15. Is that "themeaningfreedictionary"?
"We could talk semantics all day. It's really simple."

"It's really simple." Now that you've checked the dicktionary and sementics you can check the DU Rules.

:bounce: :bounce:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:31 PM
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16. WTF is wrong with you?
If you don't like the dictionary I quoted from earlier, try Websters: Whore: A venal or unscrupulous person. http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=whore

And what is "sementics?"

As to DU rules, they back up my use of the term. "A common exception that is permitted is the use of words like "whore" or "prostitute" in cases where public figures or the media do favors. (For example: "Fox News is whoring for the GOP again" or "Tom DeLay is a prostitute for corporate interests.")"



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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:43 PM
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19. Down boy. Changes to Rules on "Whore" weren't announced when "Bitch" was
reintroduced to the lowest common denominator.

"While specific words are not automatically forbidden, members should avoid using racist, sexist, homophobic, or otherwise bigoted terminology. This includes gender-specific terms such as "cunt," "whore," "slut," "skank," or "pussy," and terms with homophobic derivation, such as "cocksucker," which are often inflammatory and inappropriate. A common exception that is permitted is the use of words like "whore" or "prostitute" in cases where public figures or the media do favors. (For example: "Fox News is whoring for the GOP again" or "Tom DeLay is a prostitute for corporate interests.""

So NOW the Rules say "members should avoid using racist, sexist, homophobic, or otherwise bigoted terminology. This includes gender-specific terms such as "whore.""

A common exception that is permitted is the use of words like "whore" or "prostitute" in cases where public figures or the media do favors. (For example: "Fox News is whoring for the GOP again" or "Tom DeLay is a prostitute for corporate interests.""

And this is a rewording of the previous specific Rule that limited "whore" to "media whore." Still associating "whore" with a specific "whoring for" which, obviously, your OP does not do.

Considering who's really runnin the show, the apt metaphor is "pimps" and "johns."
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:52 PM
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20. I choose to disagree with you in that my OP was obviously
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 05:53 PM by Tom Yossarian Joad
intended to paint politicians as people selling favors.

And to your suggestion of replacing the metaphor with either "pimp" or a derivative of pimp, I feel that it would be the wrong choice of words for my intention.

The OP was meant to denote that our politicians were selling out to big business and other concerns (read: MONEY). Pimp or John would have meant they were the ones with the product for sale.

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:33 PM
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17. I'm familiar with the definition. From more from that page:

ThesaurusLegend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms

Noun 1. whore - a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money

bawd, cocotte, cyprian, fancy woman, harlot, lady of pleasure, prostitute, sporting lady, tart, woman of the street, working girl

call girl - a female prostitute who can be hired by telephone

camp follower - a prostitute who provides service to military personnel

comfort woman, ianfu - a woman forced into prostitution for Japanese servicemen during World War II; "she wrote a book about her harsh
experiences as a comfort woman"

demimondaine - a woman whose sexual promiscuity places her outside respectable society

hustler, slattern, street girl, streetwalker, floozie, floozy, hooker - a prostitute who attracts customers by walking the streets

white slave - a woman sold into prostitution

adult female, woman - an adult female person (as opposed to a man); "the woman kept house while the man hunted"

Verb 1. whore - corrupt by lewd intercourse

corrupt, debase, debauch, demoralise, demoralize, deprave, misdirect, pervert, profane, vitiate, subvert - corrupt morally or by intemperance or sensuality; "debauch the young people with wine and women"; "Socrates was accused of corrupting young men"; "Do school counselors subvert young children?"; "corrupt the morals"

2. whore - have unlawful sex with a whore
fornicate - have sex without being married
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:37 PM
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18. Thesaurus???? Jesus...
We can go into the etymology of just about any word you want and find an unscrupulous leaning to it.

Take the word "strawman" for instance.

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 06:00 PM
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21. Well I think you've
got you've got your whores raping the pimps or something - it seems like your metaphor in the OP is all confused.
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